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Date: September 26th, 2007 1:17 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Multi-colored Address Son Of Senegal Undergrads are well represented
Harvard: 16 Yale: 14 Princeton: 10 Stanford: 9
http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2007/09/26/news/18736.shtml
Yale and Harvard are equal per capita. Princeton trails. Stanford trails even more. |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 1:47 PM Author: big blue set Inheriting money really shows the quality of the school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8692047) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:29 PM Author: misanthropic buff therapy legal warrant Not to mention that money, in many cases, was why they got into the school in the first place. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8692251) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 8:57 PM Author: emerald submissive juggernaut How do you know? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8693811) |
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Date: October 14th, 2007 6:57 PM Author: rambunctious yellow roast beef haha, you are so predictable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8768431) |
Date: September 26th, 2007 7:01 PM Author: vibrant nowag Penn, Dartmouth, Columbia? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8693393) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 8:05 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Multi-colored Address Son Of Senegal I only used what was in the dailyprincetonian. You could look online at all 400 bios. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8693642) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 8:11 PM Author: iridescent adventurous prole cruise ship Subject: Its amazing that the rank order (adjusted for class size) never seems to change (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8693662) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 8:16 PM Author: ebony den give it time...it'll be interesting to see these stats in a generation (or even half a generation) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8693690) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 9:03 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Multi-colored Address Son Of Senegal why? what are you thinking? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8693830) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 9:12 PM Author: ebony den dunno...itll just be interesting to see what affect more merit based admissions at HYP-along with the explosion of quality professors/students at institutions across the country-has on this stat (will it go down as ppl find success through new routes? will it go up because more people destined to be leaders end up at HYP?). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8693874) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 9:36 PM Author: iridescent adventurous prole cruise ship Subject: My guess is a higher percentage with come from HYP A generation ago, the runaway winner as the most common alma mater for Fortune 500 CEOS was the City University of New York. Lots of very bright kids who couldnt afford the Ivies went there in the 30s-50s and went on to do big things in the sixties to eightees. Today, HYP is pretty much a meritocracy open to all segments of society. Kids who get in nowadays do so because, on a more or less level playing field, they outcompeted thousands of very talented, smart high schoolers. The same talents and abilities that allowed them to do this as teenagers will in many cases pave the way to great success in the business world. Thats my take on it anyway (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8693985) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 10:44 PM Author: big blue set My count was different, although I didn't include people who dropped out.
Undergrad (3+): Penn (inc Wharton): 17 Yale: 15 Harvard: 13 Princeton: 10 Stanford: 9 UT Austin: 8 Cornell/Dartmouth/Michigan/MIT/UCLA/USC: 7 Columbia: 6 Northwestern/NYU: 5 Berkeley/Claremont-McKenna: 4 Amherst/Arkansas/Baylor/Lehigh/Utah: 3
Business School (2+): Harvard: 26 Stanford: 16 Penn: 8 Chicago: 6 NYU/Columbia: 3 USC: 2
Law School (2+): Columbia/Harvard/UVA: 4 Northwestern/SMU: 3 Chicago/NYU/Stanford/Wayne State: 2
Medical School (1+): Albert Einstein/Hahnemann/Witwatersrand/WUSTL: 1
Grad school (2+): MIT: 6 Berkeley/Stanford/UCLA: 3 Cambridge: 2
Total (5+): Harvard: 44 Stanford: 30 Penn: 26 Yale: 15 Columbia/MIT: 13 UCLA: 11 Chicago/Michigan/NYU/Princeton/USC/UT Austin: 10 Cornell/Northwestern: 9 Berkeley/Dartmouth: 8 Duke/UVA: 6 SMU: 5
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Date: September 26th, 2007 11:55 PM Author: laughsome crystalline goyim multi-billionaire I also counted 17 Penn undergrad alumni. In addition, there were 2 Penn drop-outs, and 1 Penn out-transfer (Warren Buffett). So even without the drop-outs and transfer, this belies the following statement from the Daily Princetonian article:
"Among top-ranked schools, Harvard has the most undergraduate alumni on the Forbes 400 list, with 16 of America's richest citizens having pursued bachelor's degrees there. That figure includes Microsoft founder Bill Gates, who dropped out of Harvard."
Given that the Princetonian article also includes drop-outs (e.g., Bill Gates), there are actually 19 Penn undergrads on the list--or 20 if you include Buffett, who spent 3 years at Wharton before transferring to Nebraska for his senior year--compared to Harvard's allegedly leading number of 16.
Funny how the Daily Princetonian kinda overlooked Penn (must be a basketball rivalry thing). Then again, Penn gets overlooked a lot around here, too. |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 8:30 AM Author: aphrodisiac becky mother Subject: 10% of those on the list have a Harvard degree Harvard Tops Forbes 400 List Over ten percent of the 400 richest Americans have a Harvard degree Published On Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:00 AM By MICHELLE L. QUACH Contributing Writer
Although Bill Gates, the richest member of this year’s Forbes 400, is Harvard College’s most famous dropout, 42 people on the elite list actually did complete a Harvard degree.
Of all the universities in the U.S., Harvard currently has the highest number of alumni recognized by Forbes magazine’s annual compilation of the wealthiest men and women in the nation. Stanford ranks second with 30 alumni, and the University of Pennsylvania ranks third with 24.
Harvard Business School is the most well-represented division of the university, with 28 graduates on the list, including Fidelity President Abigail P. Johnson ’88 and New York mayor Michael R. Bloomberg ’66. Both are ranked in the top 25.
The College has 13 alumni who made it onto the list, which places it second behind the undergraduate divisions of both Yale and Penn. Seven people on the list received their undergraduate degrees from Harvard’s neighbor, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
Harvard Law School and the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences are also represented on the list, and four Harvard alumni on the list attended more than one of Harvard’s schools.
The highest ranked Harvard graduate on the list is Steven A. Ballmer ’77—Gates’ business partner at Microsoft.
Gates and Ballmer—who are worth $59 billion and $15 billion respectively—donated $25 million in 1996 to build Maxwell Dworkin, the computer science building near the Law School campus.
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Date: September 27th, 2007 9:54 AM Author: laughsome crystalline goyim multi-billionaire Penn gets no respect--except at Harvard. Must be the "Faust Effect". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8695605) |
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Date: September 27th, 2007 1:33 PM Author: big blue set I like how you can be second behind two schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8696262) |
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Date: September 30th, 2007 1:39 PM Author: Clear volcanic crater Subject: USC representin!! Yeah BITCHES, told ya only da best go to USC! We have TEN USC Trojans among the Top 400 richest people in the nation. We're the ONLY football school in the nation that has the most prominent alumni as billionaires!
Us USC Trojans are better than you losers, and we know it! |
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Date: September 30th, 2007 1:45 PM Author: underhanded base affirmative action you're retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8708818) |
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Date: September 30th, 2007 2:26 PM Author: Poppy Brunch Skinny Woman Ew, the UC system should be slammed. The schools are way too large with ~40,000 in the school. It's not prestigious, just ghetto. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8709031) |
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Date: October 14th, 2007 10:16 AM Author: cerebral pearly heaven athletic conference Subject: penn should be congratulated I must have no life, as I rigorously went through all 400 last night. Hats off to Penn for out-performing Harvard! Hats off to USC! I didn't go to Penn or USC, and find both schools a little obnoxious. Nevertheless, give credit where credit is due. Even when discounted for relative size of classes. How come Penn doesn't promote this stat more aggressively? Kids today want to get rich more than ever I have seen, and the stat would be a draw that increases yield. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8766389) |
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Date: October 14th, 2007 10:29 AM Author: lilac fighting menage Can you post your analysis? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8766411) |
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Date: October 14th, 2007 10:46 AM Author: cerebral pearly heaven athletic conference I just scribbled down a list based on the ugrad school the 400 richest graduated from. My numbers pretty much matched the above numbers.
I didn't look at the mba since I think mba schools take people that already are successful in business and just stamp on a degree. In contrast, ugrad schools take more of a chance. sats and hs gpas are not as indicative of performance in business than actual work success. So I think schools that have high ugrad success probably can claim more of the credit for the success of their graduates -- especially Penn, which for so many years has lost yield battles with other Ivies.
One last note: some schools like Cornell had most of their ugrad richest come from one family. In the case of Cornell the Johnsons apparently like the school. Penn has alums on the list with almost no family connections, which I think shows a stronger base.
Kudos to Penn! |
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Date: October 14th, 2007 12:26 PM Author: lilac fighting menage Did you look at "inherited wealth" versus "earned wealth"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8766697) |
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Date: October 14th, 2007 2:07 PM Author: cerebral pearly heaven athletic conference No. But that would be *the* question to ask. Obviously there must be some autocovariance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8767037) |
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Date: October 14th, 2007 4:39 PM Author: rambunctious yellow roast beef You people are fucking retards. Who gives a shit? The Forbes 400 is not going to tell you anything about colleges. This whole thread is completely retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8767845) |
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Date: October 14th, 2007 4:46 PM Author: cerebral pearly heaven athletic conference I give a shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8767893) |
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Date: October 14th, 2007 6:51 PM Author: rambunctious yellow roast beef You are a classic middle-class douchebag.
And, again, the Forbes 400 does not tell you anything about colleges. |
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Date: October 14th, 2007 6:57 PM Author: cerebral pearly heaven athletic conference And I thought I had no life. Then I met "coke fiend". Have a nice life, loser.
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Date: October 14th, 2007 7:03 PM Author: rambunctious yellow roast beef hmm....great post. then again, I'm not the one analyzing where the Forbes 400 went to school. The Forbes 400 is not necessarily an indicator of class, prestige, etc.
You want to get rich? Drop out. Or go to a wall street feeder school. Etc. Stop taking such an immature, childlike approach to college rankings. |
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Date: October 14th, 2007 7:05 PM Author: cerebral pearly heaven athletic conference No, the issue is no longer college rankings. The issue is that you are a loser. Accept that fact and stop posting. Thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8768468) |
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Date: October 14th, 2007 7:09 PM Author: rambunctious yellow roast beef sorry, i can't stop posting. i'm addicted to chatting with pathetic middle-class fags like yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8768493) |
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Date: October 14th, 2007 4:40 PM Author: rambunctious yellow roast beef Actually, the best entry-level jobs in finance (and consulting, e.g. Bain) do not recruit at your shitty school. They recruit at places like Harvard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692390&forum_id=1#8767858) |