What do ELITE students think of lesser schools? [ElGreco]
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Date: October 1st, 2004 12:03 AM Author: Smoky thriller abode
By elite, I mean only ivies + SMCB + top LAC's. Seriously, what do you guys think of the festering TTT's that have become so abundant in today's society?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1418453) |
Date: October 1st, 2004 12:07 AM Author: Blue casino
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1418480) |
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Date: October 1st, 2004 12:09 AM Author: Smoky thriller abode
LOL!!! I have a follower! Proof of my success!!
I give meaning and value to the world, while you fuckers take it away. HTH
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1418495) |
Date: October 1st, 2004 12:22 AM Author: motley lake institution
Society needs them.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1418590) |
Date: October 1st, 2004 12:23 AM Author: Bat shit crazy lemon piazza bbw
you're a cheap version of kant.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1418598) |
Date: October 1st, 2004 3:02 AM Author: sapphire concupiscible legend giraffe Subject: My School: Northwestern
HYPSMCColumbia: amazing
Penn: nobody here knows or cares much about it. Great school but possibly inflated perception as far as admissions are concerned.
Dartmouth, Brown: Not superior to NU academically, but certainly harder to get into. Basically, extremely elite schools whose identity stems largely from selectivity but not so much from academic excellence, which is no greater than Duke, NU, JHU.
Duke: Fine but not amazing--more selective than its quality would suggest.
Johns Hopkins; great but not spectacualar--certainly no better than NU in academic quality or selecivity.
Rice: Nobody knows much about it. Extremely selective school but one that may be a bit more selective than its reputation suggests. Personally, I love Rice and think it deserves to be considered alongside Duke, Cornell, etc.
Washu: Joke
Cornell: equal to NU but subject to an inflated repuation due to Ivy Status. Overall, it's nothing special compared to what we're used to.
I realize that none of these are lesser schools. We don't bother to inflate our egos by criticizing (even constructively) "lesser" schools. Who knows what "lesser" school is another applicant's dream? It wouldn't be fair.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1419372)
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Date: October 1st, 2004 8:28 AM Author: brilliant anal persian locale
That's pretty weird. You guys don't care about Uchicago?
I've never ever heard of people thinking Columbia was in the same tier as HYP outside of people from nyc who are wrong.
Outside of a few professions or situations, if you pay full price for an "elite" school, you're not going to neccessarily do better than going to a ttt.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1419606) |
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Date: October 1st, 2004 10:37 AM Author: sapphire concupiscible legend giraffe
UChicago--excellent school, but we have such little overlap with them (even in applicants) that it's hard to make any judgment beyond that. Columbia isn't in the same tier as HYP, but I do think that its quality generally matches its selectivity, both of which are extremely high. As pointless as it sounds, I think that there's something to be said for an Ivy League school in Manhattan. It gives the school an edge that not many other colleges have.
In the end, it's not like we sit here talking about what we think of elite schools. Strangely, the topic actually came up last night between my friends and I for the first time since freshman year (I'm a senior now).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1419812) |
Date: October 1st, 2004 3:06 AM Author: translucent goal in life
at PRESTIGIOUS STATE, we look down upon all schools.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1419377) |
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Date: October 1st, 2004 3:09 AM Author: Hyperventilating cruise ship famous landscape painting
haha, you're not going transfer.
quitter
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1419380) |
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Date: October 1st, 2004 2:10 PM Author: translucent goal in life
i'm really not.
i'll be lucky to crack a 3.7 and i honestly like it too much to transfer.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1421009) |
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Date: October 1st, 2004 2:24 PM Author: Hyperventilating cruise ship famous landscape painting
You were all about the I wanna be cool like APguy and jude and get out of PSU, but look at you now.
I don't think I'm going to get that 4.0 either, which sucks. Worst of all it's probably math that I'll fuck up in, because of the forced curve.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1421064) |
Date: October 1st, 2004 12:02 PM Author: Effete Chestnut Dopamine
Is Carleton considered one of those top LACs?
We don't seem to give a fuck about other schools, I definitely haven't heard any real comparison going on where people will ex/implicitly say Carleton > X college or Carleton < Y college. I think there is more general disdain that at other places for large, public schools or snotty East Coast private colleges, but s'all good.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1420225) |
Date: October 1st, 2004 12:39 PM Author: mind-boggling community account
I think it's really individual to be honest. Some people think state schools suck, some people think they are great. I've met a lot of people who have attended state schools and are here at Penn now and I have met a lot of people who are Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Princeton, MIT alums here too. It's really individual on what they think about other schools.
There is one guy here who is a Wharton MBA and did his undergrad at Yale and he lives, eats, sleeps Yale... and constantly compares Penn to Yale. It gets old pretty quickly... whereas another Yale alum I know here doesn't even bother with comparing them.
I think the one thing that I have opened some people to is the thought that one school is not perfect for everyone... and that there IS no ideal school for every person. I *never* would have come to Penn (or other elites) for undergrad because it wasn't going to offer me what I wanted. A lot of people see me as a smart person who went to a state school, which is very common. I would say there were a chunk of my friends who could have attended Penn or similar level schools.
Me personally, I never compare my experiences between Delaware and Penn. Delaware was perfect for undergrad and Penn perfect for Graduate school... you can't really compare the two in my mind.
Mark UDel'03
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1420450) |
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Date: October 1st, 2004 2:40 PM Author: sapphire concupiscible legend giraffe
Your mom is a rancid TTT in decline.
AWWWWWWWW SNAP
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1421156) |
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Date: October 1st, 2004 2:49 PM Author: avocado hot sneaky criminal foreskin
Penn is more on the upswing.
If they could only redo the campus.
columba is beautiful.
The only nice thing about penn is Huntsman hall (the new wharton building), and maybe the quad.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1421214) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2004 12:37 PM Author: mind-boggling community account
You infer too much.
I think of those schools as the top tier and Penn as a choice among students who don't like/weren't admitted to those. Keep in mind this choice is not exclusive.
Frankly, unlike a lot of people on this board, I couldn't give a flying F*ck about what people think about Penn, Delaware or any other school to be honest.
All that matters is that people are happy where they are.
Mark
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1424845) |
Date: October 1st, 2004 12:43 PM Author: Twinkling internal respiration
Everyone already knows how I feel about Columbia. ;)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1420475) |
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Date: October 1st, 2004 5:23 PM Author: Transparent geriatric ceo lay
Claremont Consortium?
edit: maybe not Pitzer. or Scripps
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1422141) |
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Date: October 1st, 2004 1:23 PM Author: brilliant anal persian locale
LOL.
I'd go to Duke and even Brown or Dartmouth over Columbia College anyday.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1420708) |
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Date: October 1st, 2004 1:30 PM Author: brilliant anal persian locale
SEAS isn't either.
I'm taking a class at columbia and everyone makes fun of seas kids.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1420763) |
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Date: October 1st, 2004 1:33 PM Author: brilliant anal persian locale
and this would be el greco?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1420782)
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Date: October 1st, 2004 5:30 PM Author: know-it-all principal's office karate
as brandeis is the most elite jewish sponsored, non-secretarian school in the entire world, i feel comfortable in taking part on this thread.
i haven't really heard many people even talk about a lot of other schools, but nobody really seems to care much either way.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1422184) |
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Date: October 1st, 2004 6:40 PM Author: Godawful Area Half-breed
But it's not an ivy, Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Berkeley, or an elite LAC! Clearly, since it isn't incredibly prestigious, merely a very good school, noone gives a crap about it. The fact that graduates from the vast majority of colleges, even literal TTT's (I'm talking third tier by the US News Standards) get good-paying jobs is a fluke of nature. Soon, the U.S. unemployment rate will be >95% and only graduates from the "elites" won't have to worry about living on the streets.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1422432) |
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Date: October 4th, 2004 2:35 PM Author: razzmatazz garrison lettuce
"Settle for academia"?
You know that's the first choice of most people who get PhD's, right? And that it's much harder to land an academic job (I'm talking tenure-track here) than it is a job in the private sector?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1434683) |
Date: October 1st, 2004 10:01 PM Author: Low-t Razzle Location
I like Columbia fine.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1423304) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2004 3:52 AM Author: Provocative sick indian lodge
ho ho ho ho. you like jokes, eh? you like jokes? i'll tell you a joke.
why did the chicken cross the wroad?
CORNELL!
bwa ha ha ha.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1424584) |
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Date: October 4th, 2004 1:19 AM Author: Provocative sick indian lodge
is that some obscure form of a knock knock joke? i like knock knock jokes.
explain.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1432966) |
Date: October 3rd, 2004 9:37 AM Author: Hyperventilating cruise ship famous landscape painting
just about all the people who used smilies on this thread are fucking dumbasses
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1429089) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2004 9:44 AM Author: Hyperventilating cruise ship famous landscape painting
i was just observationing.
it's inadvisable to spend more than a passing thought on my medium-rare observations.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1429096) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2004 9:54 AM Author: Hyperventilating cruise ship famous landscape painting
I don't mean that as in you're really just stupid, but that the things you say are lacking in point in a bad way. Like GTO's comments I've noticed, how the things he sometimes says like "There is no such thing as a top LAC ;)" are so painful to read. I realize this is just a silly message board so I don't point it out very often.
I'm going to go out for a walk now, so bye.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1429100) |
Date: October 3rd, 2004 11:05 AM Author: Bearded home
Most of us here agree Columbia is some elite shit but Columbia SEAS is a TTT shithole with the recent aquisition of the flaming fuck Elfucko.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1429177) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2004 12:26 PM Author: Smoky thriller abode
First off, you just stated that Columbia is "some elite shit," whereas you contradicted yourself in previous posts by stating Columbia University to be a TTT. This inconstistency not only invalidates your entire argument, but reveals your inner sense of insecurity towards my accomplishment(s). As I was saying to Lao, Columbia SEAS (yes, it even has Columbia in its name!) is still a part of Columbia. Furthermore, I would like to make it clear to you that I am not even studying ENGINEERING at Columbia. I am studying Computer Science, which is hosted by CC. In otherwords, I get the dual benefit of having a BS, and taking my entire curriculum at CC. All this is in addition to my being in the top 3% of my class as a C. Prescott Davis scholar. You're just revealed that I make you jealous as SHIT. Go drink some used douche fluid now. HTH
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1429340) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2004 12:46 PM Author: white milk plaza
That's the first time I've heard anyone make the claim that Computer Science at Columbia is a Columbia College department.
http://www.cs.columbia.edu/about.html
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1429406) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2004 12:49 PM Author: white milk plaza
*shrug*
The BA in CS is non-ABET accredited. The BS in SEAS *is* ABET accredited. They also offer BA's in Applied Mathematics. Does that make AM a CC department?
I thought you were all SEAS-pride and stuff. Why are you trying to put your respective department in CC now?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1429418) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2004 12:51 PM Author: white milk plaza
Also, refer to this:
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/vpaa/fhb/c2/acadstruc.html
Excerpt:
"The sixth--the Fu Foundation School of Engineering and Applied Science--includes nine academic departments:
* Applied Physics and Applied Mathematics
* Biomedical Engineering
* Chemical Engineering
* Civil Engineering and Engineering Mechanics
* Computer Science
* Electrical Engineering
* Industrial Engineering and Operations Research
* Mechanical Engineering
* Mining, Metallurgical, and Mineral Engineering (Henry Krumb School of Mines)"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1429424) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2004 1:00 PM Author: white milk plaza
Dispute me if you want to, but I am curious as how you can claim the authority to dispute the published university governance structure, as listed in the faculty handbook.
Also, my work here is done. My facts are stated. I am out.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1429457) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2004 1:38 PM Author: sapphire concupiscible legend giraffe
Maybe it's just 'cause I'm a TTT non-Ivy student, but I don't quite get all of this intra-university jealousy and trash talk. I can understand the Barnard v. Columbia argument, but SEAS vs. College? O.k., if you say so, but it seems a bit odd and immature to me. Am I right in assuming that nobody outside of Columbia (and visitors to this board) would really hold an engineering major in lower regard than a poli. sci. major?
Anyway...not really my place to intrude in this argument, but it does seem a bit strange.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1429575) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2004 3:53 PM Author: Bearded home
Even you yourself has tried to differentiate them with:
"First off, you just stated that Columbia is "some elite shit," whereas you contradicted yourself in previous posts by stating Columbia University to be a TTT. This inconstistency not only invalidates your entire argument, but reveals your inner sense of insecurity towards my accomplishment(s). As I was saying to Lao, Columbia SEAS (yes, it even has Columbia in its name!) is still a part of Columbia. Furthermore, I would like to make it clear to you that I am not even studying ENGINEERING at Columbia. I am studying Computer Science, which is hosted by CC. In otherwords, I get the dual benefit of having a BS, and taking my entire curriculum at CC. All this is in addition to my being in the top 3% of my class as a C. Prescott Davis scholar. You're just revealed that I make you jealous as SHIT. Go drink some used douche fluid now. HTH"
Columbia college is different from SEAS. That is why PR has a separate entries for SEAS and the college for undergrad when you search for columbia. It is because it is that shitty. Notice how ALL the other Ivies don't have this shitty distinction of having their engineering schools separated. Also note: http://encarta.msn.com/college_article_tentoughestschools/the_most_competitive_admissions.html?GT1=5472
Columbia is stated as "Columbia University- COLUMBIA COLLEGE" none of the SEAS shit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1430178) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2004 4:01 PM Author: sapphire concupiscible legend giraffe
Just because the two colleges are "separated" within Columbia University doesn't mean that SEAS isn't as much a part of the university as is the College. Cornell also separates its engineering program into a separate college, but nobody denies that it is still a part of Cornell Unviersity, just like the College of Arts and Sciences. My school also separates its engineering program into a different "school," (one that also has a lower numerical ranking than our university as a whole), but nobody distinguishes them in a negative fashion from the rest of the student body (if anything, they are the most well-respected students in our school because of the difficulty of engineering).
From the point of view of an outsider, this whole argument is just a case of a little greed--elitism gone crazy, if you will. You have more prestige than most people can ever dream of, yet you wish for more, and you view the engineering program as a black mark on your institution, simply because it doesn't contribute to the top liberal arts curriculum in which you take so much pride. It seems like a major case of hair-splitting, and I really do hope that you all don't walk around debating this shit on campus for 4 years. That's a total waste.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1430212) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2004 10:39 PM Author: Smoky thriller abode
Fanatic, I know you're fucking jealous of me. I know it hurts to know that I am a C. Prescott Davis scholar, and you're an average fuck. But how convenient is it that you totally decide to ignore THIS?
"You have been unable to clarify to me exactly why SEAS is this supposed TTT you deem it to be. 29th in rankings? Does that make Harvard a TTT too? How about Yale in 49th place?"
Please.. oh please.. go back to your Princeton TTT life. Kiss my Columbia ass. HTH
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1432107) |
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Date: October 4th, 2004 11:08 AM Author: Smoky thriller abode
The point is, you're an average fuck at Princeton, while I am an elite student at Columbia. Who the fuck chooses Princeton over Stanford? Are you a fucking idiot? You're also a fucking liar. You never got accepted to MIT, Stanford, etc-- because you got "accepted to Princeton ED." HAHAHA, fucking liar. Either that, or you don't really attend Princeton! Learn how to cover your tracks better. You are an average fuck. As I said, kiss my Columbia C Prescott Davis ass. HTH
I may refer you to THIS:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969#1430212
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1433716) |
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Date: October 4th, 2004 4:01 PM Author: Provocative sick indian lodge
oy?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1435055)
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Date: October 4th, 2004 5:26 PM Author: Smoky thriller abode
He committed an illegal act: one that violates the signing of the ED commitment. He left his applications in for other schools after being accepted ED-- a crime punishable by immediate revokation of enrollment. In otherwords, you lied on your Princeton app by willfully doing something you clearly knew was illegal. This puts you in a dangerous position. Careful-- tell me your name, and I will assure you that you will no longer be a student. Your opinions, feelings of "eliteness," and other by-products of your Princeton acceptance could very quickly change, and are in this case, false, as they lie on the shaky premise that you will not be discovered. Cheating and other devious acts are condemnable, and in this case, by the law.
--ETE
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1435515) |
Date: October 4th, 2004 2:19 AM Author: avocado hot sneaky criminal foreskin
well guys, while we're on the subject of rankings,
Penn football pwns the ivies.
RAH RAH RAH.
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1433212) |
Date: October 4th, 2004 3:21 PM Author: Bearded home
To digress from my talks with Elfucko, The princeton students i know and myself think Columbia is elite and we view other schools such as NU,Duke,Cornell,Rice with respect even though they might be "lower" in ranking. But we all agree certain programs like Columbia SEAS are TTTs. HTH
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1434867) |
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Date: October 5th, 2004 12:57 AM Author: Smoky thriller abode
It's interesting to see how cheaters (who have lost ALL credibility whatsoever) continue to post, unashamed of their shitty tactics-- a vestigial relic of their application past. If I knew your name, you would not be attending Princeton today. Watch out-- don't fuck yourself again. Again, failing to refute ANY argument, I deem you as a piece of shit.
Date: October 4th, 2004 5:26 PM
Author: ElGreco (the one and only)
He committed an illegal act: one that violates the signing of the ED commitment. He left his applications in for other schools after being accepted ED-- a crime punishable by immediate revokation of enrollment. In otherwords, you lied on your Princeton app by willfully doing something you clearly knew was illegal. This puts you in a dangerous position. Careful-- tell me your name, and I will assure you that you will no longer be a student. Your opinions, feelings of "eliteness," and other by-products of your Princeton acceptance could very quickly change, and are in this case, false, as they lie on the shaky premise that you will not be discovered. Cheating and other devious acts are condemnable, and in this case, by the law.
(http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969#1435515)
--ETE
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=88969&forum_id=1#1438122) |
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