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Knock it off with the Kaavya bashing already

This is a really shameful episode for xoxohth. Here's a bea...
bull headed electric coldplay fan
  04/25/06
Date: April 25th, 2006 7:43 AM Author: majorporcupine Th...
passionate codepig resort
  04/25/06
Bullshit. She stole someone else's work and attempted to pas...
Mewling sanctuary
  04/25/06
Obviously, you have never heard of The Merchant of Venice, A...
bull headed electric coldplay fan
  04/25/06
...
Mewling sanctuary
  04/25/06
I've heard of sarcasm and satire. And I saw the heavy handed...
Mewling sanctuary
  04/25/06
As opposed to heavy handed, half-assed, high-school creative...
bull headed electric coldplay fan
  04/25/06
hah
Spruce Incel
  04/25/06
...
titillating french locale half-breed
  04/25/06
Perhaps you didn't notice I was being sarcastic. The fact t...
bull headed electric coldplay fan
  04/25/06
...
titillating french locale half-breed
  04/25/06
Kaavya should give you a half million dollars for plagiarizi...
bull headed electric coldplay fan
  04/25/06
Apparently you have never heard of The Merchant of Venice, W...
titillating french locale half-breed
  04/25/06
No, none of the 170 specialty shops I visited carried those,...
bull headed electric coldplay fan
  04/25/06
" Here's a beautiful, intelligent, talented, fun-loving...
galvanic saffron property
  04/25/06
Aw, you only read the cliched part, not the section where I ...
bull headed electric coldplay fan
  04/25/06
The HARVARD name won't save her now! With all the perks of t...
wild big home main people
  04/25/06
Remember that her English literature professors recognized h...
wild big home main people
  04/25/06
Thank you. I think you are points are important to consider...
bull headed electric coldplay fan
  04/25/06
Good points. I've read her writing, and I doubt it's eve...
Swollen wrinkle
  04/25/06
and you will? doooouucchhheee baggg alert!
Bateful queen of the night
  04/25/06
She isn't gonna bang you now that you're defending her. Calm...
curious old irish cottage
  04/25/06
Are you dense enough to believe that was a defense? It's sa...
bull headed electric coldplay fan
  04/25/06
A+ post more often--you're seriously one of the best post...
gaped filthy tanning salon hominid
  04/25/06
Thank you. It's always nice to be appreciated. I would p...
bull headed electric coldplay fan
  04/25/06
FYI this was a flame.
cobalt nudist brethren ladyboy
  04/25/06
If so, it was a nice flame and I didn't mind being bait.
bull headed electric coldplay fan
  04/25/06
Pretty good thread. Good work, OP.
Contagious School Cafeteria
  04/25/06
lol, good work.
Costumed locus love of her life
  04/25/06
Nice! You shouldn't have admitted that it was flame, sarcasm...
Swollen wrinkle
  04/25/06
If you want to transition to dating prospects in graduate ma...
bull headed electric coldplay fan
  04/25/06
Let's just say Kaavya == tubgirl. (I use two '=' characters ...
Swollen wrinkle
  04/25/06
ahaha, awesome. Post more often.
territorial crotch
  04/25/06
One fucking eighty
Citrine hunting ground
  04/26/06
flame
razzmatazz mauve quadroon
  04/26/06
i think that there might be some good quotes from les misera...
trip slippery black woman
  04/26/06
180
naked space
  04/26/06


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Date: April 25th, 2006 7:43 AM
Author: bull headed electric coldplay fan

This is a really shameful episode for xoxohth. Here's a beautiful, intelligent, talented, fun-loving and sophisticated young woman--the type of woman who broke the glass ceiling that normalized misogyny (i.e., xoxohth) constructed, a young woman showing promise in a male-dominated field, and what do you do? Rather than celebrating her enterprising and pioneering spirit, you want to kick her down. This hiccup in her life, a mistake ANYONE could make, is an occasion for you all to jump on her and spitefully rub salt in her wounds.

Remember that her English literature professors recognized her talent. Remember that a major publishing company offered her a half million dollar advance. Remember that she was admitted to the most prestigious higher education institute on the planet. Remember that before you scuff at her achievements.

She has apologized. Accept her apology and move on. She has so much more to offer, if only we, as a community, stop holding her to ever arbitrary standards of excellence. Nobody's perfect. As it goes, Kaavya is about as close as they get. Far better that we encourage her talent than torment her more than the Promethean impulse which already beckons to her artistic spirit. There is no creature more sensitive than the artist--sensitive to the joys of life, as some have spitefully argued, yes--but sensitive also to its sorrows. Must we drive her to madness, to shame, to degradation, to despair, to ruin, to damnation, to suicide, and to ridicule before we are satisfied? Is it not enough that she is human for us to love her? If you prick her, does she not bleed? If you tickle her, does she not laugh? If you poison her, does she not die? And if you wrong her, shall she not revenge?

In summary, I should like to give utterance to these prophetic and entirely original words:

I see the Crimson, and the Times, the Post, the Independent, the Tribune, and xoxohth, long ranks of renewed oppressors who have risen on the destruction of this tender flower, perishing by this same retributive instrument, before it shall cease out of its current use. I see a beautiful woman and brilliant novelist rising from this woeful wasteland, and in her struggle to be truly successful, in her triumphs and defeats, though long long to come, I see the evil of this time and of the previous time of which this is the inevitable birth, eventually making expiation for itself and wearing out.

I see the literary genius for whom McCafferty lays down her copyright, peaceful, useful, prosperious and happy, in that New Jersey which she shall see no more. I see Kaavya with a second book upon her bosom, which bears her name. I see her father, worn and tired, but otherwise restored, and faithful to all humanity in his healing office, and at repose. I see the good old counselor, so long their friend, in ten months' time enriching them with all she has, and passing tranquilly to an office

I see that 170 specialty shops hold sanctuary in her heart, and in the hearts of her customers, weekends hence. I see her, an old woman, weeping for joy on the anniversary of this day. I see her and her agent, their course done, lying side by side in their last earthly bed, and I know that each was not more honored and held sacred in the other's soul, than that half million dollar advance was in the souls of both.

I see that book which lay upon her bosom and which bore her name, published, winning its way up in that path of life which once was McCafferty's. I see it winning so well, that its name is made illustrious there by light of sales. I see the blots McCafferty threw upon it, faded away. I see it, foremost of chick-lit and bestsellers, bearing itself with a paperback that I know and golden letters, to this place--then lovely to look upon, with a trace of this day's disfigurement--and I hear her reading McCafferty's story, with a tender and a faltering voice.

It is a far, far better thing she does, than anything we might have done; it is far, far better rest this oopsie goes to than any Kaavya has ever known.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647321)





Date: April 25th, 2006 7:50 AM
Author: passionate codepig resort

Date: April 25th, 2006 7:43 AM

Author: majorporcupine

This is a really shameful episode for xoxohth. Here's a beautiful, intelligent, talented, fun-loving and sophisticated young woman--the type of woman who broke the glass ceiling that normalized misogyny (i.e., xoxohth) constructed, a young woman showing promise in a male-dominated field, and what do you do? Rather than celebrating her enterprising and pioneering spirit, you want to kick her down. This hiccup in her life, a mistake ANYONE could make, is an occasion for you all to jump on her and spitefully rub salt in her wounds.

Remember that her English literature professors recognized her talent. Remember that a major publishing company offered her a half million dollar advance. Remember that she was admitted to the most prestigious higher education institute on the planet. Remember that before you scuff at her achievements.

She has apologized. Accept her apology and move on. She has so much more to offer, if only we, as a community, stop holding her to ever arbitrary standards of excellence. Nobody's perfect. As it goes, Kaavya is about as close as they get. Far better that we encourage her talent than torment her more than the Promethean impulse which already beckons to her artistic spirit. There is no creature more sensitive than the artist--sensitive to the joys of life, as some have spitefully argued, yes--but sensitive also to its sorrows. Must we drive her to madness, to shame, to degradation, to despair, to ruin, to damnation, to suicide, and to ridicule before we are satisfied? Is it not enough that she is human for us to love her? If you prick her, does she not bleed? If you tickle her, does she not laugh? If you poison her, does she not die? And if you wrong her, shall she not revenge?

In summary, I should like to give utterance to these prophetic and entirely original words:

I see the Crimson, and the Times, the Post, the Independent, the Tribune, and xoxohth, long ranks of renewed oppressors who have risen on the destruction of this tender flower, perishing by this same retributive instrument, before it shall cease out of its current use. I see a beautiful woman and brilliant novelist rising from this woeful wasteland, and in her struggle to be truly successful, in her triumphs and defeats, though long long to come, I see the evil of this time and of the previous time of which this is the inevitable birth, eventually making expiation for itself and wearing out.

I see the literary genius for whom McCafferty lays down her copyright, peaceful, useful, prosperious and happy, in that New Jersey which she shall see no more. I see Kaavya with a second book upon her bosom, which bears her name. I see her father, worn and tired, but otherwise restored, and faithful to all humanity in his healing office, and at repose. I see the good old counselor, so long their friend, in ten months' time enriching them with all she has, and passing tranquilly to an office

I see that 170 specialty shops hold sanctuary in her heart, and in the hearts of her customers, weekends hence. I see her, an old woman, weeping for joy on the anniversary of this day. I see her and her agent, their course done, lying side by side in their last earthly bed, and I know that each was not more honored and held sacred in the other's soul, than that half million dollar advance was in the souls of both.

I see that book which lay upon her bosom and which bore her name, published, winning its way up in that path of life which once was McCafferty's. I see it winning so well, that its name is made illustrious there by light of sales. I see the blots McCafferty threw upon it, faded away. I see it, foremost of chick-lit and bestsellers, bearing itself with a paperback that I know and golden letters, to this place--then lovely to look upon, with a trace of this day's disfigurement--and I hear her reading McCafferty's story, with a tender and a faltering voice.

It is a far, far better thing she does, than anything we might have done; it is far, far better rest this oopsie goes to than any Kaavya has ever known.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647321)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647332)





Date: April 25th, 2006 8:03 AM
Author: Mewling sanctuary

Bullshit. She stole someone else's work and attempted to pass it off as her home. That's theft. Pure and simple. She then took money in exchange for the work she knew to be stolen. That's fraud. Pure and simple.

If someone was to steal my car and sell it to a unsuspecting victim, should we forgive her because (a) she happens to be female and (b) she happens to have got into a good school through a copmbination of luck on a standardized test and a lenient AA program?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647346)





Date: April 25th, 2006 8:10 AM
Author: bull headed electric coldplay fan

Obviously, you have never heard of The Merchant of Venice, A Tale of Two Cities, or sarcasm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647359)





Date: April 25th, 2006 10:35 AM
Author: Mewling sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647742)





Date: April 25th, 2006 10:38 AM
Author: Mewling sanctuary

I've heard of sarcasm and satire. And I saw the heavy handed, half-assed, high-school creative writing class level attempts to pick up the soliloquys from MoV and TTC. You just really, really suck at this.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647755)





Date: April 25th, 2006 11:29 AM
Author: bull headed electric coldplay fan

As opposed to heavy handed, half-assed, high-school creative writing class level attempts to pick up random phrases from "Sloppy Firsts"? Damn, if only I were so talented....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5648038)





Date: April 25th, 2006 11:32 AM
Author: Spruce Incel

hah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5648054)





Date: April 25th, 2006 8:20 AM
Author: titillating french locale half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647390)





Date: April 25th, 2006 8:22 AM
Author: bull headed electric coldplay fan

Perhaps you didn't notice I was being sarcastic. The fact that three-quarters of my post was plagiarized might have tipped you off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647399)





Date: April 25th, 2006 8:23 AM
Author: titillating french locale half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647400)





Date: April 25th, 2006 8:25 AM
Author: bull headed electric coldplay fan

Kaavya should give you a half million dollars for plagiarizing me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647403)





Date: April 25th, 2006 8:27 AM
Author: titillating french locale half-breed

Apparently you have never heard of The Merchant of Venice, War and Peace, or irony.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647407)





Date: April 25th, 2006 8:30 AM
Author: bull headed electric coldplay fan

No, none of the 170 specialty shops I visited carried those, so I ended up buying a diet Coke...er, Pepsi.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647412)





Date: April 25th, 2006 10:49 AM
Author: galvanic saffron property

" Here's a beautiful, intelligent, talented, fun-loving and sophisticated young woman--the type of woman who broke the glass ceiling that normalized misogyny (i.e., xoxohth) constructed"

I stopped reading.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647802)





Date: April 25th, 2006 12:21 PM
Author: bull headed electric coldplay fan

Aw, you only read the cliched part, not the section where I deeply internalized.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5648300)





Date: April 25th, 2006 11:52 AM
Author: wild big home main people

The HARVARD name won't save her now! With all the perks of the golden ticket comes scrutiny. She tasted the goods and bit the apple!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5648166)





Date: April 25th, 2006 11:54 AM
Author: wild big home main people

Remember that her English literature professors recognized her talent.

Professor are idiots at times.

Remember that a major publishing company offered her a half million dollar advance.

You have on idea what drivel publishing companies will try to publish if they think it will sell.

Remember that she was admitted to the most prestigious higher education institute on the planet.

So was NYCFan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5648176)





Date: April 25th, 2006 11:58 AM
Author: bull headed electric coldplay fan

Thank you. I think you are points are important to consider when reading my post. In fact, I think your points were the tacit points of my post. But thanks for wording it explicitly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5648199)





Date: April 25th, 2006 1:26 PM
Author: Swollen wrinkle

Good points.

I've read her writing, and I doubt it's even above-average by Harvard standards. I bet the professors who lauded her were adjuncts or otherwise just misled. Anyway, your claim that "professors are idiots at times" may hold, though I'd attribute their failure to recognize her lack of talent to the fact that they are either outside of her specialty, or too talented. A truly great writer is going to have trouble differentiating between a merely good writer (say, 95th percentile H undergrad) and a mediocre one (average H undergrad) and might misrecognize the latter as the former.

"Remember that she was admitted to the most prestigious higher education institute on the planet."

Ugh. Compare Yale/Harvard Law, or any top-40 math, physics, or econ department, and Harvard College looks awfully pale in comparison. She got into Harvard College; so what? Most HC grads do not go on to do anything substantial or interesting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5648722)





Date: April 25th, 2006 7:08 PM
Author: Bateful queen of the night

and you will? doooouucchhheee baggg alert!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5651222)





Date: April 25th, 2006 8:10 AM
Author: curious old irish cottage

She isn't gonna bang you now that you're defending her. Calm down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647361)





Date: April 25th, 2006 8:13 AM
Author: bull headed electric coldplay fan

Are you dense enough to believe that was a defense? It's sarcasm. Please see above.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647368)





Date: April 25th, 2006 9:39 AM
Author: gaped filthy tanning salon hominid

A+

post more often--you're seriously one of the best posters on either board, but no one knows because you rarely post. quality over quantity i suppose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5647536)





Date: April 25th, 2006 11:34 AM
Author: bull headed electric coldplay fan

Thank you. It's always nice to be appreciated.

I would post more often, but if I get addicted to xoxohth, life and homework would pwn me even more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5648065)





Date: April 25th, 2006 11:46 AM
Author: cobalt nudist brethren ladyboy

FYI this was a flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5648130)





Date: April 25th, 2006 11:56 AM
Author: bull headed electric coldplay fan

If so, it was a nice flame and I didn't mind being bait.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5648191)





Date: April 25th, 2006 12:02 PM
Author: Contagious School Cafeteria

Pretty good thread. Good work, OP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5648212)





Date: April 25th, 2006 12:27 PM
Author: Costumed locus love of her life

lol, good work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5648343)





Date: April 25th, 2006 1:13 PM
Author: Swollen wrinkle

Nice! You shouldn't have admitted that it was flame, sarcasm, or plagiarism. You could've gotten to 100+ with this, then.

For what it's worth, though, I don't see many more 100+ threads in Kaavya's future. I think the subject is tapped out at this point. We'll probably go retro... back to tubgirl. In fact, Kaavya's writing segues well into 'da tubster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5648633)





Date: April 25th, 2006 1:34 PM
Author: bull headed electric coldplay fan

If you want to transition to dating prospects in graduate math programs, I think we could make 100+. =p

Nah, I think you're right. Kaavya => tubgirl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5648792)





Date: April 25th, 2006 4:12 PM
Author: Swollen wrinkle

Let's just say Kaavya == tubgirl. (I use two '=' characters because this is not a Java-style assignment statement; Kaavya was tubgirl even before we observed, and stated, the fact. Indeed, she was probably tubgirl before there even was a tubgirl.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5649915)





Date: April 25th, 2006 1:48 PM
Author: territorial crotch

ahaha, awesome. Post more often.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5648888)





Date: April 26th, 2006 1:21 AM
Author: Citrine hunting ground

One fucking eighty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5653996)





Date: April 26th, 2006 10:11 AM
Author: razzmatazz mauve quadroon

flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5655064)





Date: April 26th, 2006 12:46 PM
Author: trip slippery black woman

i think that there might be some good quotes from les miserables or the count of monte cristo you could have incorporated. nonetheless, one of the best posts i've seen in a while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5655999)





Date: April 26th, 2006 2:39 PM
Author: naked space

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=405350&forum_id=1#5656767)