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Good Grades and Being Smart

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cerebral primrose step-uncle's house
  05/18/06
President, lol
Bronze stage
  05/18/06
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cerebral primrose step-uncle's house
  05/18/06
lol I got that one.
violet thirsty heaven rigpig
  05/18/06
both extremes can go pretty damn far. really depends on indi...
tantric obsidian weed whacker
  05/18/06
I know someone like this too. I think it's simplistic, thou...
Vigorous rehab private investor
  05/18/06
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cerebral primrose step-uncle's house
  05/19/06
Ja, see #5. Probably has little to do with laziness or work...
Vigorous rehab private investor
  05/19/06
Depends how smart is "really smart". I knew a kid ...
multi-colored brilliant university
  05/19/06
credited response. also, i know some brilliant kids who (...
tripping piazza internal respiration
  05/19/06
what does "credited response" mean in this context...
multi-colored brilliant university
  05/19/06


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Date: May 18th, 2006 11:24 PM
Author: cerebral primrose step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=419113&forum_id=1#5812995)





Date: May 18th, 2006 11:44 PM
Author: Bronze stage

President, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=419113&forum_id=1#5813104)





Date: May 18th, 2006 11:45 PM
Author: cerebral primrose step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=419113&forum_id=1#5813106)





Date: May 18th, 2006 11:51 PM
Author: violet thirsty heaven rigpig

lol I got that one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=419113&forum_id=1#5813146)





Date: May 18th, 2006 11:48 PM
Author: tantric obsidian weed whacker

both extremes can go pretty damn far. really depends on individual circumstances.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=419113&forum_id=1#5813126)





Date: May 18th, 2006 11:49 PM
Author: Vigorous rehab private investor

I know someone like this too. I think it's simplistic, though, to reduce every case to laziness; the problem can attributed to many factors:

1) Boredom--some very bright kids even find it demeaning or insulting to work on repetitive or rote tasks.

2) Contempt--tied into the boredom problem, students may eventually develop contempt for the academic system, feeling that it is a worthless rat race and not worthy of their time.

3) Fear of failure--shattering the illusion of being brilliant by actually challenging oneself.

4) Fear of success--students may fear that if they perform to their potential on one assignment, they may be expected to maintain sustained, possibly even unrealistic, improvement.

5) Contributing psychological/environmental factors--being bright doesn't mean you have the ideal conditions to foster that intelligence; a broken home, drug abuse, psychological problems, and other

6) Temperment--studies show that certain types of intelligence (particularly people in creative fields such as music, painting, or literature) have an increased risk for bipolar disorder, for example. This can mean oscillations in both quality and quantity of output.

7) Self-education--it would be naive to assume everyone gets the same educational quality from a school. Many gifted students, however, find self-education to be a more useful investment of time. As a result, the student continues to learn, even though schoolwork is neglected.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=419113&forum_id=1#5813134)





Date: May 19th, 2006 12:15 AM
Author: cerebral primrose step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=419113&forum_id=1#5813298)





Date: May 19th, 2006 12:31 AM
Author: Vigorous rehab private investor

Ja, see #5. Probably has little to do with laziness or work ethic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=419113&forum_id=1#5813379)





Date: May 19th, 2006 1:04 AM
Author: multi-colored brilliant university

Depends how smart is "really smart". I knew a kid with a straight A+ record at one of the most cut-throat engineering programs in the country, yet didnt do jack shit most of the time and was the laziest procrastinating drunk bum. Some people are that smart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=419113&forum_id=1#5813584)





Date: May 19th, 2006 1:11 AM
Author: tripping piazza internal respiration

credited response.

also, i know some brilliant kids who (as stated above) hold the educational system in contempt, so they don't give a fuck about their grades.

edit: by the time you get to college, though, a lot of those kids already got their GPA punished in HS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=419113&forum_id=1#5813633)





Date: May 19th, 2006 1:14 PM
Author: multi-colored brilliant university

what does "credited response" mean in this context?

nevertheless though, some kids are good enough to do very little work, and get straight A/A+ everywhere, and never get their GPA punished anywhere be it HS, college, or whatever. These kids frequently exist at top schools, at even the most cut-throat programs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=419113&forum_id=1#5816281)