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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:14 PM Author: Concupiscible Stead
Demodding NYCFan this past Sunday morning was one of the hardest decisions I've had to make involving this board.
However, remodding NYCFan this afternoon was certainly one of the easiest choices ever.
Some advice: if you want to convince someone that mods are a bad idea, it's generally not a good idea to spam the hell out of the board. It's also not very smart to attack one of the people making the decision with racial slurs like here http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422025&mc=13&forum_id=1#5846508
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846583) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:17 PM Author: Crimson Genital Piercing
why didn't you tell us he wasn't a mod anymore?
maybe people would've reacted differently had they known he wasn't around.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846599) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:21 PM Author: Concupiscible Stead
Are you seriously asking me this? Spamming the board is NEVER an acceptable way of making a point. I don't care what you're trying to "protest" -- making the board unreadable is never going to be persuasive or get anyone to change their minds. In fact, it will often have the opposite effect. Same goes for calling an admin a "slimey guido" with "jew blood."
You know what's persuasive? Nice, well written emails (in fact, I received not one email from anyone about this).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846620) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:24 PM Author: Crimson Genital Piercing
HE SPAMS THE BOARD EVERY DAY WITH POSTS ABOUT HARVARD THAT NOBODY CARES ABOUT! there's a reason he's got such a polarizing personality and very few people on this board can stand him.
want moderators? why don't you appoint people who are actually respected by members of the community rather than appointing someone who everyone despises behind their backs? someone who seldom breaks the rules, doesn't spam for their school, and would be fair. rather than an old man with a stick up his ass still fucking dreaming about his days in college 40 years ago.
isn't this why we all ran away from PR? because of board nazis? NYCFan deletes threads like no one's business. some of these threads have no mention of him at all.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846631) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:31 PM Author: Concupiscible Stead
"NYCFan deletes threads like no one's business. some of these threads have no mention of him at all."
You know what the proper thing to do when something like that is going on?
Send an email! Our email address is no secret and is linked off the main page.
We did not receive even *one* email about this situation. Not one. Instead, we got a completely spammed board.
When I noticed (on my own, without anyone bringing it to my attention) that NYCFan deleted a thread that shouldn't have been deleted, I immediately demodded him. If this stuff was going on earlier and someone emailed me about it I might've acted earlier.
However, I'd rather have a few innocent threads deleted than a board completely filled with spam. As for why I didn't appoint someone "actually respected by members of the community," if you are right and "very few people on this board can stand" NYCFan, then someone highly respected by most of the community is probably not the right person for this job.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846663) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:38 PM Author: Concupiscible Stead
Couldn't find the email?
http://www.autoadmit.com
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846707) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:38 PM Author: glittery immigrant
"if you are right and "very few people on this board can stand" NYCFan, then someone highly respected by most of the community is probably not the right person for this job."
That makes no sense since you're assuming NYCFan is someone to respect.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846712) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:47 PM Author: cyan mewling forum personal credit line
One that's not entirely based on regular posters chatting to one another, and every so often posting about their schools or academic concerns.
As NYCFan said, maybe we'll see an on topic post for once!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846767) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:52 PM Author: Concupiscible Stead
"One that's not entirely based on regular posters chatting to one another,"
Umm, off-topic was *never* the basis for this board. That's why school-related is the default. The primary purpose of this board has always been the information in the school-related section. You know this, we've had this discussion before.
We're just maintaining the status quo. Nothing's being done to off-topic... and if more school-related stuff gets posted due to less spam in that section, all the better.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846805) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 6:04 PM Author: cyan mewling forum personal credit line
Not at all. But giving power to decide what is spam and what isn't to NYCFan pretty strongly suggests that his view of how the board should look represents yours, and his view of the board is godawful boring.
If you want so badly for the board to be focused on the latest college news, say so and I at least will stop posting my own random crap.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846889) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 6:14 PM Author: Concupiscible Stead
Once again, who said anything about wanting off-topic to go away?
This board has always primarily been an admissions / higher ed board. If you completely ignored every single thread in the off-topic section we'd still have more posts here than CC or any other site. The percentage of school-related v. off-topic content has no impact on whether this board is an admissions board or not.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846929) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 6:20 PM Author: cyan mewling forum personal credit line
That you don't care what posters want, you want what you want, and if getting that involves alienating the entire "community," well, too bad for them.
I guess it's not really a problem.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846957) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:42 PM Author: Concupiscible Stead
<sarcasm>
Yeah, that's exactly what I was saying.
</sarcasm>
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846738) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:44 PM Author: cyan mewling forum personal credit line
"someone highly respected by most of the community is probably not the right person for this job."
The people this community likes are not suitable to be in any position of power over the nature of the board. I.e. what the community likes is not what you like.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846747) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:48 PM Author: Concupiscible Stead
If most people think links to legitimate college-related articles are "spam" then you're right, the community dosn't like what I like.
But that doesn't mean that they're not welcome. I (and probably most of the community) don't like the racist shtick posters, but they're welcome to post as long as their posts are in the off-topic section. Just because I'd never make DarkyTheCoon a mod doesn't mean he can't post as long as he follows the rules.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846777) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:51 PM Author: cyan mewling forum personal credit line
The point of a discussion board is to foster discussion. Random news articles that MENTION the name of a college and then just talk about the student going there and what they do are not conducive to conversation, other than, oh, I know that guy/know someone like that/went to that summer camp. Do you really want us to post EVERY news article about a college? Doesn't some university news website already exist (yes) and limit itself to actual news, rather than small town filler features (yes)?
We could spam the board without spamming it, if we all just posted every article that mentioned our college in it that day.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846798) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:56 PM Author: cyan mewling forum personal credit line
Man, I hope everyone is as lazy as I am, because that just opened up a can of spammy worms.
Eww, wormy spam.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846841) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:52 PM Author: glittery immigrant
But if its articles ONLY about one school, then it becomes trolling, much like WUSTL spam in snail mailboxes.
This argument would work if there were a healthy balance of articles about other schools.
IF Byerly only post articles of princeton (he also spammed his lame rankings), then would that be ok?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846801) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:59 PM Author: Concupiscible Stead
"But if its articles ONLY about one school, then it becomes trolling, much like WUSTL spam in snail mailboxes."
It might be trolling, but that's not against the rules.
If you want balance in articles, go post some. The problem with Byerly/bostonian was endlessly spamming the same articles all over the board over many months (almost a year now actually) and then refusing to stop even after being told to quit it (Byerly's failure to stop, and those other trolls constantly posting NYCFan's personal info, are what caused NYCFan to get modded in the first place).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846855) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 6:03 PM Author: glittery immigrant
I dont want to have to post a shitload of articles about my schools just to balance out NYCFan's trollin.
Then it will just turn into to stupid "Stanford vs. Harvard" or "Princeton vs. Harvard" posting pissing match, which is how NYCFan operates.
He'll just start posting negative shit about Stanford and Princeton.
why bother. NYCFan's habits are poison for this board, and his being a mod makes things worse.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846878) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 7:45 PM Author: Odious set dog poop
"Byerly's failure to stop, and those other trolls constantly posting NYCFan's personal info, are what caused NYCFan to get modded in the first place"
That's the stupidest reason I've ever heard of to 'mod' somebody. Modding a quasi-troll...great idea.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5847398) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 9:54 PM Author: Concupiscible Stead
Unlike some people, I don't spend anything remotely close to 24/7 on this site. Hell until this week I probably spent an hour a week on the college side tops.
If you don't email us about a thread, we almost certainly won't see it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5848080) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 9:27 PM Author: Mustard Garrison Liquid Oxygen
And your solution to this is reinstating the man who indirectly caused the spamming in the first place?
If NYCFan wasn't a mod and didn't make god awful threads about harvard this wouldn't have happened in the first place
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5847885) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 9:47 PM Author: Red Fat Ankles Den
the bumping was *only* happening to give you examples of all the really shitty, useless (yes) spam he's posted in the past.
you should have immediately told everyone that he wasn't a mod anymore, and then his stupid threads (they are, remember, HIS STUPID THREADS and wouldn't have existed without him) wouldn't have been bumped.
this is akin to tpr droid.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5848019) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 9:45 PM Author: Red Fat Ankles Den
"if you had told the board he was no longer a mod, this spam bullshit wouldnt be happening."
this is 100% correct.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5848009) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:30 PM Author: dark stubborn psychic ticket booth
You should just close the board. Soon every thread will be a link to something from Google News and any legitimate posts that dissent from NYCFan's trolling will be deleted. After all, everyone should play nice and everything should be homogeneous :)
Also grow a thicker skin.
And stop watching Naruto.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846658) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 6:44 PM Author: glittery immigrant
thats right:
bumping old threads =/= spamming the board
IF:
these threads = spam
THEN:
spamming = creating these threads
AND:
spammer = NYCFan
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5847102)
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Date: May 24th, 2006 5:55 PM Author: Hairless magical boltzmann
"Thanks guys."
Way to show us.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846833) |
Date: May 24th, 2006 6:17 PM Author: stirring glassy turdskin striped hyena
IMO everyone who was involved in the spamming should get an IP ban.
I for one welcome our senile, slimy board overlord.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5846946) |
Date: May 24th, 2006 6:55 PM Author: burgundy yapping site
He should never have been relieved of his mod duties.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5847147) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 7:14 PM Author: burgundy yapping site
This board needs a mod. If he's willing to do it then fine.
While his view of the board may not match mine, this board has turned into a self-defeating entity without it as it currently is.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5847219) |
Date: May 24th, 2006 7:17 PM Author: Ivory state
I just went through this entire thread and I've come to the conclusion that we all need girlfriends, especially the girls.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5847235) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 8:33 PM Author: Transparent Irradiated Piazza
>>we all need girlfriends, especially the girls.
Are you promoting homosexual activity? You're ruining the spirit of the board with that filth.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5847614) |
Date: May 24th, 2006 9:20 PM Author: primrose adulterous cruise ship private investor
You care about racial slurs now? Looks like Brian Leiter PWNED you!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5847837) |
Date: May 24th, 2006 9:21 PM Author: Chestnut station gay wizard
absolute power corrupts absolutely. even though the nature of the board is along the lines of complete freedom, except for spamming and outing, all the power still lies in one individual, and in the long run that is no freedom at all. the day when this board will no longer be what xoxo initially was will come with a whimper and not a bang. since GTO has absolute power, the signs are already showing that his vision for what this place should be is materializing as we speak, and what would have been unthinkable a year ago is now regular course of business (ie modding NYCFan, admitting that the community here is worth for shit and is second fiddle to the "real" purpose of the board, as deemed by the Creator).
the only thing we have to fear...is GTO himself.
i have a dream, xoxo WITHOUT GTO!
seriously, all we need is someone to watch out for spam.
In xoxo we trust,
Anthrax.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5847840)
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Date: May 24th, 2006 9:27 PM Author: pungent national security agency gas station
And wait for the inevitable massacre of the people.
Our only hope is going to the other members of the triumvirate.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5847887) |
Date: May 24th, 2006 9:44 PM Author: Carmine Shrine Nibblets
Two observations:
1. It's hard to blame the actions of one or two on the rest of the board for the H spaming.
2. Why not allow democratically elected mods? Other websites have used this and it can quiet the bitching.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5847998) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 10:45 PM Author: Carmine Shrine Nibblets
d00d, there are a million different ways to have the voting.
You can make it for certain emails/they had to register by a certain date. Granted with this style of board I'm not sure if that is possible.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5848390)
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Date: May 24th, 2006 11:02 PM Author: Crusty rehab marketing idea
Wow this was linked to on the law board.
GTO has sunk to new depths... he's made NYCFan a mod?
Off-topic posts are to be discouraged?
What I don't get is why GTO was ever made moderator of this thread. He's clearly a biased person (he is always getting into altercations with posters), he's petty and he's not fair. Why didn't the board remain with rachmiel and boondocks?
In a year or so this board will be just like PR. Ah well.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5848519) |
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Date: May 24th, 2006 11:09 PM Author: Concupiscible Stead
"Off-topic posts are to be discouraged?"
Where did I say that?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5848578) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 5:51 PM Author: iridescent supple telephone
I KNOW, right?????!?!?!
Because who needs actions when you have words?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5853445) |
Date: May 24th, 2006 11:19 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone roommate coldplay fan
Why didn't we email you? Because you had a great track record dealing with bostonian/byerly*. And marrakesh outting ltorivia. yeah, we have a lot of faith in you.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5848657) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 12:06 AM Author: maize deer antler
This thread has since been deleted, don't know why
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5849035) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 12:08 AM Author: flushed talking mad cow disease
my eyes can't read that. was it announced?
edit: ah i see it now, thanks
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5849048) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 12:09 AM Author: Crusty rehab marketing idea
LMAO
Who is he? Pol Pot? Trying to get rid of the undesirables? This whole scenario is like the plot from a bad dystopian novel.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5849051) |
Date: May 24th, 2006 11:26 PM Author: mildly autistic bistre place of business community account Subject: Here's what I'd like to know:
What exactly are the privileges of a mod (anything beyond deleting threads? making stickies, editing posts, banning posters or IPs, ect...)
Are there any other people with these privileges other than NYCFan and, presumably, yourself?
What is your vision for the college side of the board and, specifically, how does off=topic posting fit into it?
We've given you some respect here and we're only asking you to do the same in return.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5848713) |
Date: May 24th, 2006 11:41 PM Author: vibrant friendly grandma generalized bond
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5848826) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 10:29 PM Author: flushed talking mad cow disease
what new board?
edit: ok i found it
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5855403) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 11:12 PM Author: flushed talking mad cow disease
thank you very much
i think this board not only tolerates but also encourages disrespect. that's why it needed mods a long time ago.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5855766) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 12:12 AM Author: Ivory state
I am thinking of leaving, too. It's not because of this current situation, but it is sure in hell prompting me further.
Godspeed, JaV.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5849070) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 10:30 PM Author: Motley Flesh Newt
Date: March 17, 2004 06:58 PM
Author: radiohed (Call me Mint Jelly because I'm on the lam!)
Subject: To Whom It May Concern
I wanted to leave the board by having one last hurrah, but the our good friends, the forum moderators, saw it differently and would not allow me to have my cake and eat it, too; thus, I have been reduced to writing a cliched goodbye thread. I am sorry if I at all seem vain by leaving in this manner, as I am sure that many of you could not care less if I remained, left or died a terrible, terrible death. I had been considering a departure for a while, so, it only seemed appropriate to coincide it with the introduction of the board since I exhausted all of my valid e-mail addresses months ago. Unfortunately, I have no dirty secrets to spill or any controversy to stir up with my final bow. However, I can reveal that the following posters are carrying my children:
1) Diesel
2) [your name here]
I will not leave any personal messages, but a privileged few know what I would say about them. And, despite what many of you may believe, I do not despise any of you; yes, that also means you, Ryan, so get over yourself. I will not, however, claim that I wish nothing but the best for all of you, because that would be an absolute lie.
It appears that my 15 minutes are about up, kids. If you ever see me wandering down a street alone, please do not hesitate to scream hysterically in ecstasy. I will not respond to any posts, so do not ask any questions about anything at all; yes, that also means you, Ryan, so get over yourself. Vaya con Dios, and shine on, you crazy diamonds.
By the way, there never was a clique.
Love,
radiohed
(http://discuss.princetonreview.com/forums/Index.cfm?CFApp=3&Message_ID=6967541)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5855407)
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Date: May 25th, 2006 12:19 AM Author: Sick home
See what you did? None of this would have happened if you sacrificed your 5.0 and stayed at the helm.
Hah, I still remember the time you made a thread to hear suggestions about site changes and Anthony got his panties in a bunch because you didn't consult with them first. I can just imagine you rolling your eyes thinking there are kids in the MIT Nerd Frat who aren't half as pathetic as these two.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5849118) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 12:28 AM Author: Fighting Business Firm
The 5.0 may (maybe!) still be intact after this term. That'd be awesome, cause I'd never need to make another A in my life.
As for site changes, I'm sort of disinterested (uninterested too, in a way). I don't really feel a huge push to make changes around here since I don't think the site'll ever make beaucoups cash. And even if it did, I wouldn't get a piece.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5849161) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 9:03 AM Author: Red Fat Ankles Den
"And even if it did, I wouldn't get a piece."
you did the work that created the site. unless anthony has bought out your share or something, any reasonable person would say you own a piece of it, whether or not you've done anything since.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5850334) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 12:49 AM Author: Concupiscible Stead
Is it just me, or is everyone completely ignoring the fact that he was demodded for that as soon as I found out?
Perhaps you should've emailed rach and I instead of Boon.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5849291) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 8:00 PM Author: Red Fat Ankles Den
i've never agreed with you more than now. you are completely correct.
re-modding nycfan makes a mockery of this board as an objective source of information. as nycfan himself would put it, it's letting the inmates (in fact, probably the most rabidly crazy inmate of all) run the asylum.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5854292) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 4:22 PM Author: Crimson Genital Piercing
:( don't leave.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5852653)
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Date: May 25th, 2006 11:15 PM Author: flushed talking mad cow disease
thanks
tomorrow i am officially finished with my first year of med school.
and on that note my break is over and I really need to get back to studying.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5855782) |
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Date: May 26th, 2006 11:10 PM Author: flushed talking mad cow disease
finals are finally over; ugh what an ordeal, somehow I managed to complete my first year of med school.
i think a lot of people have been drinking as they finish finals but not too many do drugs, or maybe i'm oblivious; people found doing illegal drugs could be expelled, so i doubt people would take the chance.
i rarely drink but I had liver problems; thankfully hopefully that's a thing of the past but i still try to take it easy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5862381) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 5:01 PM Author: Hairless magical boltzmann
okay maybe i don't read all of your long posts...
but stay. i feel like i'm losing a piece of the board.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5853027) |
Date: May 24th, 2006 11:47 PM Author: flushed talking mad cow disease
well i obviously am not around enough.
i never even knew he was a mod; nor anything that happened in relation to him on this board. i also missed all the spammings.
i guess some of us really do have work to do and miss all the excitement.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5848874) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 12:01 AM Author: Sick home
I love how you come here repeated to announce to the world that you're too good/busy for this place.
WE KNOW YOU HAVE A LIFE. DO YOU WANT A FUCKING COOKIE?
Some things will never change.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5848999) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 12:04 AM Author: flushed talking mad cow disease
um no, i obviously haven't a clue what'as going on here
and i'd expect a cookie from you to be full of arsenic
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5849023) |
Date: May 25th, 2006 12:03 AM Author: Sick home
classic/TPRDROID: PR :: NYCFAN: xoxo.
This is the beginning of the end.
Edit - Though, I think all the anger in this place is slightly misplaced. All the bad decisions ever made on this place - from the banning/deletions/chosing fan and gto as mod - can all be traced back to Rach. He's the one with the audacity to allow someone with so many enemies (GTO) and someone so obviously biased (Fan) to have so much control over this place. GTO is just the clown who whispers into Rach's ear and declared himself the spokeperson for the board. If you want to attack the indiscretion of the mods, at least point your fingers to the top of the hierarchy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5849013) |
Date: May 25th, 2006 2:50 AM Author: glittery immigrant
why is this thread no longer a sticky?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5849906) |
Date: May 25th, 2006 3:13 AM Author: salmon floppy ape
So was the "SUCK MY..." thread for real?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5849984) |
Date: May 25th, 2006 8:57 AM Author: bateful range tattoo Subject: Intentions matter.
You people need to get your heads out of your asses. GTO and/or rach made NYCFan a mod because of other assholes on the board. They did so truly thinking that it would help- they couldn't have known that NYCFan would abuse his power like that. It has nothing to do with them wanting to turn this place into the next PR. And even if they do, it's THEIR board and their right to do so-
Instead of nonstop bitching and moaning, maybe you could take a step back and realize that you ought to be a little more appreciative of the work they've put into this place? Rach has been insanely busy with work, so without GTO's help, this place either wouldn't exist at all, or would be about ten times shittier.
[edit] Going more in-depth with this theme of intentions, it has been rach's intent from the very beginning to make this into a real college/grad/law forum, not just a place for us to get together and shoot the shit. So in terms of that, post-for-post, NYCFan is the note-worthy person here. You may not like his Harvard trolling (and that's what it is: trolling; it is NOT spamming because he doesn't literally flood the board with threads), but whenever anyone has a question or requests information from him, whether it's Harvard-related or not, he does his best to seriously answer that person. None of us can boast the same. Plus there is nothing truly malicious about him, especially when you consider that he gets attacked constantly and has had his private information posted over and over (and in reply to the poster above who said it was fair game because it's public information, that doesn't matter. Posting someone's information without his consent has been against the- very few- rules from the beginning, and whether or not the rules are fairly applied is a good question to raise, but it is certainly beside the point). However, bosterly etc. have only had malicious intentions, and the same for whoever is responsible for bumping dozens of NYCFan's threads the other day.
You're not helping anything by being dickwads. You're being provided a service and you've taken it for granted. It's NOT hard to follow the rules: don't spam, and don't post people's private information. If those two things did not occur, then there would have been no need for NYCFan to have been modded in the first place. But since we're obviously incapable of keeping ourselves under control, well, we wind up with situations like these.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5850330)
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Date: May 25th, 2006 11:38 AM Author: cyan mewling forum personal credit line
Um, we're not helping anything by just going along with what they want if it's not what we want, either. I don't really know what your definition of helping is. Because we're provided a service that we don't have to do anything in exchange for, we should just accept it when the people providing it do things we don't like? Why? Most of us don't care if the board is a real admissions board, helping towards that goal (just because that's what the people providing us this service would like) doesn't do anything for us.
Yes, we can always just leave if we don't like it, we know very well, that's been made very clear. Isn't that what they (NYCFan very strongly included) want?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5850859) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 1:01 PM Author: bateful range tattoo
"we're not helping anything by just going along with what they want if it's not what we want, either."
Do you want the board spammed? Do you want your personal info being posted? Okay then.
"helping towards that goal (just because that's what the people providing us this service would like) doesn't do anything for us."
No, it doesn't. But pissing and moaning doesn't seem to be doing anything for you guys either.
"Isn't that what they (NYCFan very strongly included) want?"
Excluding NYCFan, no, it is absolutely not what they want, and you're simply flat-out wrong if you think that's the case.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5851350) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 1:18 PM Author: cyan mewling forum personal credit line
Well, if that's not what they want, then they sure do suck at not getting it. Whenever people don't like something, the response is, "Sorry you feel that way." And whenever people DO something GTO doesn't like, the response is, haha, fuck you guys, I'm gonna do things you don't like just to spite you now instead of addressing your concerns like I should have done in the first place instead of first denying, then dismissing them.
And don't be so smarmily self-righteous. As GTO well knows, I'm as against outtings as anyone here and more than willing to stop them. But this is not the way, and this is not the way to react to people being pissed off that you did shit like this to begin with. The entire theme of this problem is that GTO doesn't give a crap about what the current posters here want. Right, it's their board, they can do what they want, but everyone should admit it and not play like they're doing this because they care so much about the "community."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5851428) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 7:09 PM Author: bateful range tattoo
Whoa, calm down. I'm hardly any more self-righteous about this than anyone who's posted in this thread- I just happen to be on the opposite side of the spectrum.
The entire theme of this problem is that people have their panties in a wad. I don't see anyone who's both trustworthy and seriously willing to step up and actually help out. I just see a lot of people who are pointing fingers and getting annoyed, myself included. But at least I recognize it for what it is, rather than being a backseat driver.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5853867) |
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Date: May 27th, 2006 8:55 AM Author: Red Fat Ankles Den
are you pensive?
i've seen him in real life and interacted once or twice. thankfully, i wouldn't say i "know" him.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5863619) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 10:46 PM Author: flushed talking mad cow disease
there's a lot of truth to what you said, although I never knew NYCFan was a mod.
your line: "Posting someone's information without his consent has been against the- very few- rules from the beginning, and whether or not the rules are fairly applied is a good question to raise, but it is certainly beside the point)." is so true. And obviously it is besides the point because the rules have never been fairly applied. I think efforts resently have been made to make this board better, and we probably have GTO to thank for that.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5855533) |
Date: May 25th, 2006 9:24 AM Author: Dashing National Hairy Legs
I should be mod.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5850367) |
Date: May 25th, 2006 1:27 PM Author: Odious set dog poop Subject: just my worthless thoughts
The real issue here seems to be less with the fact that there *was* a mod, as technically since we have admins, we have mods, but with the way it was done: the whole gestapo-type, secretive and underhanded manner in which it was carried out. Even after it was suspected that 'fan was a mod, and it was asked, we never got a straight answer.
One would think that with the history of this board and how it came about, the powers that be would be a *little* bit more sensitive to the whole moderator issue. In all honesty, GTO, this was probably done in the absolute worst way it could have been. Really, what did you expect? And what was the reason for keeping everything hush-hush?
You know why nobody emailed you? Because very few people know how to. The email address isn't exactly the most visible, now is it? We've been over this before, but for whatever reason, you like to tuck it away on a sub-page of the main page - which nobody really visits. Why not have this 'contact' link at the head of each forum? Its akin listing emergency phone numbers somewhere randomly in the yellow pages.
Furthermore, do you think you could be any more ambiguous with the contact link? Who/what are we exactly contacting? The webmaster, moderators, the owners, or Jesus H Christ? This "Staff" thing is pretty worthless, and as you've said yourself you're barely on this side of the board. Why would anybody want to contact *you*? You're not visible...which of course brings up another reason to let posters know who the mods are. If there *is* a problem, we know who to get in touch with.
And out of all the posters to mod, you picked 'Fan? How stupid was that, really? He's the one that gets picked on the most, so great idea, hand the kid that's being bullied a gun. He's never presented himself as the most balanced poster, now has he? And as you've more or less implied, 'fan is a troll. Again, brilliant decision.
Everything that you've hoped to accomplish by making 'fan a mod could have been done without all of this headache. Simply being up front with the community, being a little transparent, and making a better decision with a choice of mod(s) would have been fine. But no, you have to be all cloak and dagger about this whole ordeal. Then you bitch and moan about spam (which, for the record makes the board no less legible than does say, one-sided trolling, or racist trolls - or do those only matter when they go after *you*?). You've proven that the only way to get your attention is to spam the board. This is the bed that you made - it may be a festering pile of dung, but its your bed nonetheless. Enjoy sleeping in it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5851479)
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Date: May 25th, 2006 2:32 PM Author: Odious set dog poop
lurking a bit more these days. more than anything, things have just been so busy with end of the semester/graduation, plus my preparing to move, that I haven't had much time to post lately.
oh, and I got a gf too.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5851906) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 2:09 PM Author: cyan mewling forum personal credit line
<3
Perfect.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5851716) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 2:47 PM Author: Drunken stimulating dragon
2400
180
A+
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5852024) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 2:48 PM Author: indecent cerebral reading party address
THIS IS A TRAVESTY
D-!!!!!!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5852042) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 8:08 PM Author: Red Fat Ankles Den
harsh, but probably true. the cloak-and-dagger stuff is ridiculous. when a mod is appointed, there should be, at minimum, a sticky thread.
ideally there should be a list of all the current mods displayed on the board itself.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5854367) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 10:53 PM Author: flushed talking mad cow disease
"He's never presented himself as the most balanced poster, now has he?"
well who exactly is balaqnced around here? at least he is a mature and professional poster, and not one who goes around listing others' private information.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5855595) |
Date: May 25th, 2006 4:41 PM Author: burgundy yapping site
If you are so unsatisfied, start a splinter board. This is how it once began and there is certainly a niche for one run down the middle of the road between CC and xo, imo.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5852825) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 7:12 PM Author: bateful range tattoo
"posts or threads being deleted (and people being kicked off) only when they were being disrespectful to other posters (which includes outting people)."
This is EXACTLY what happened here, and look at the response from people.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5853883) |
Date: May 25th, 2006 7:17 PM Author: pungent national security agency gas station Subject: GTO, this is bullshit
First off, we did contact you. But when we did this, you refused to say what was going on, who might have been behind certain deletions, or anything approaching a reason why posts and threads might have been found offensive or worthy of deleting.
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=413716&mc=15&forum_id=1
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=414107&mc=118&forum_id=1
When we contacted you, you acted defensively and did not even say you'd look into it. I didn't say that you were behind certain deletions, I asked if you were. There's a big difference.
So to recap:
1.) When contacted, you refused to say you'd look into the problem.
2.) When you attempted to solve the problem, you told no one about it.
Does it really surprise you that in light of these circumstances people might have behaved badly? Give us a reason for why you do things. Tell the board at least that you are removing someone from a moderator position, and therefore the inappropriate post deletions should no longer occur. You wouldn't even have to say who the moderator was. You just have to give us the impression that our concerns are being given fair consideration.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5853916) |
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Date: May 25th, 2006 9:27 PM Author: Crimson Genital Piercing
it's the begining of the end, guys.
and 180, adah, that was masterful.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5854987) |
Date: May 25th, 2006 10:26 PM Author: laughsome claret hall
GTO previously has said he's received requests from many posters asking if he could delete threads and some of the posts they've made. His response to &# from the LB was:
Date: March 5th, 2006 9:51 PM
Author: Great Teacher Onizuka
The day I delete those threads will be the day the entire board shuts down.
However, you can feel free to email rachmiel. I gave you his email address. If he disagrees I'll respect his decision... however I somehow doubt he's going to disagree on this absurd request.
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Date: May 26th, 2006 12:09 AM Author: Concupiscible Stead
Am I being unclear here or are you guys deliberately ignoring half the stuff I write? Maybe writing it in all caps will make it stand out:
THAT STUFF WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE DELETED, AND IT WON'T BE DELETED IN THE FUTURE.
If we wanted off-topic gone we could have that whole section wiped out in 30 seconds. I don't see how anyone could possibly think that's the goal here.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5856341) |
Date: May 25th, 2006 11:17 PM Author: laughsome claret hall
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Date: May 26th, 2006 11:15 PM Author: flushed talking mad cow disease
why doesn't this thread show up on the thread list?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5862390) |
Date: May 27th, 2006 3:27 PM Author: glittery immigrant
is NYCFan still a mod?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5864611) |
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Date: May 27th, 2006 3:31 PM Author: glittery immigrant
if you want some, come get some,
cuz where I'm from we tote big guns, (Yeah)
And everybody know somebody that know somebody that know somethin bout it, (Yeah)
And I want answers now who, what, where, when and why,
see, a lotta dudes like to act a fool and all get all loud but that aint my style, (What)
and he who he gonna get and what he gonna do, (what he gonna do)
run up on me if he want to,
Out there impressin his homies,
but he stood up in front of his mama,
I mop up the flo wit em,
And I kick in the door and let the .44 get em,
I got fools that'll go get em,
This for him, the crew and the dudes that run wit em.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=422081&forum_id=1#5864637)
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