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Shocker!!!! National magazine Ranks Harvard #1 !!

Forbes Magazine enters the fray with a new formula
french irate ceo
  04/30/08
The Top 10 rankings: National Universities, Publics and LACs:
french irate ceo
  04/30/08
everyone knows that anyway.
Effete Insecure Theatre Sex Offender
  04/30/08
Wow! And the owner of Forbes is a PRINCETON guy!
french irate ceo
  04/30/08
He knows how to make money
infuriating sandwich
  04/30/08
"thanks, dad!"
french irate ceo
  05/02/08
Harvard aside, those rankings suck just as much as the rest ...
White cerebral genital piercing love of her life
  04/30/08
that's what I'm saying. Number one is never in dispute. The ...
Effete Insecure Theatre Sex Offender
  04/30/08
Actually, I'd prefer to DO THE WUSTL.
White cerebral genital piercing love of her life
  04/30/08
not surprised
Effete Insecure Theatre Sex Offender
  05/01/08
lol, brown over stanford. real legit.
Spectacular Piazza Jap
  04/30/08
The info they are using is based on such a trashy source. Ho...
amber community account
  04/30/08
LOL
infuriating sandwich
  04/30/08
They base thier rank off of WHos who? lol
Big-titted disgusting partner locale
  04/30/08
desperate times
infuriating sandwich
  04/30/08
The complete 2008 Forbes ranking of National Universities:
french irate ceo
  05/01/08
Boston College sure beats 2 Ivies, MIT, and Duke. Oh and ...
Beady-eyed Public Bath
  05/01/08
unless you like chicks
Effete Insecure Theatre Sex Offender
  05/01/08
you underestimate southern yokels who get into MIT and SMU a...
irradiated menage pistol
  05/01/08
Complete 2008 Forbes ranking of Liberal Arts colleges:
french irate ceo
  05/01/08
Complete 2008 Forbes rankings of Public Universities:
french irate ceo
  05/01/08
HAH DMD, there ya go.. a report with Harvard in First place.
Heady milk
  05/02/08
Interesting.
exciting plaza
  05/02/08
oh no! I should've went to SMU!
Haunting Station Digit Ratio
  05/02/08
you;re a goddamn idiot.
Ocher Resort
  05/02/08


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Date: April 30th, 2008 6:22 PM
Author: french irate ceo
Subject: Forbes Magazine enters the fray with a new formula

How to Choose a College

Richard Vedder 05.19.08, 12:00 AM ET

The most popular rankings use the wrong measures.

This time of year, as they make the momentous decision of where to go to college, high school seniors are turning to popular rankings compiled by magazines like U.S. News & World Report. There are competing scorecards from the Princeton Review and Kiplinger's, but U.S. News' product is way out in front in visibility; in addition to its usual circulation of 2 million, it sells 9,000 newsstand copies and some 20,000 of its college guide book.

U.S. News evaluates educational quality by looking inside colleges at measures like faculty-student ratios, admissions selectivity, financial resources and alumni giving.

I think the U.S. News rankings ought to get a D. They're roughly equivalent to evaluating a chef based on the ingredients he or she uses. At the Center for College Affordability & Productivity, a two-year-old research organization in Washington, D.C. with a free-market bent, we evaluate colleges on results. Do students like their courses? How successful are they once they graduate? In short, we review the meal.

Our measures begin with student evaluations posted on Ratemyprofessors.com, a nine-year-old site with 6.8 million student-generated evaluations. We look at college graduation rates (as does U.S. News). We also calculate the percent of students winning awards like Rhodes Scholarships and undergraduate Fulbright travel grants. For vocational success we turn to Who's Who in America. Though imperfect, it is the only comprehensive listing of professional achievement that includes undergraduate affiliations. (Our complete listing of more than 200 schools can be viewed at Forbes.com.)

The top CCAP schools rank near the top of the U.S. News list, as the accompanying table shows. But just below the top there are some surprises. Duke, MIT and the University of Pennsylvania make the top 10 list at U.S. News but not at CCAP. Duke students don't rate their professors high enough. At the University of Pennsylvania not enough grads made it into Who's Who. Brown and Northwestern, both ranked 14 by U.S. News, and Dartmouth College, ranked 11 by U.S. News, all make it onto our top 10. The University of Alabama, which got great reviews from students, came in a number 7 on our national public university ranking; it's at position 42 on U.S. News' list.

The biggest surprises come in our list of liberal arts colleges. Wabash doesn't make the top 50 on U.S. News' list but ranks tenth with CCAP because of the awards its students won and its showing in Who's Who. Several other schools not high on the U.S. News list, including Whitman, Washington & Lee, Barnard and the U.S. Military Academy (a.k.a. West Point), are in our top 10. A number of excellent smaller liberal arts colleges do poorly on the U.S. News list but fare very well on the CCAP list, including Reed (twelfth) and Knox (sixteenth). Like other consumers, students want satisfaction and results, which is what CCAP measures.

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0519/030.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9712894)





Date: April 30th, 2008 6:27 PM
Author: french irate ceo
Subject: The Top 10 rankings: National Universities, Publics and LACs:

http://images.forbes.com/media/magazines/forbes/2008/0519/forbes_0519_p030_f1.gif

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9712910)





Date: April 30th, 2008 6:54 PM
Author: Effete Insecure Theatre Sex Offender

everyone knows that anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713035)





Date: April 30th, 2008 6:56 PM
Author: french irate ceo

Wow! And the owner of Forbes is a PRINCETON guy!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713043)





Date: April 30th, 2008 9:46 PM
Author: infuriating sandwich
Subject: He knows how to make money

He can thank his excellent education

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713847)





Date: May 2nd, 2008 3:29 PM
Author: french irate ceo

"thanks, dad!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9722688)





Date: April 30th, 2008 8:24 PM
Author: White cerebral genital piercing love of her life

Harvard aside, those rankings suck just as much as the rest of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713403)





Date: April 30th, 2008 8:27 PM
Author: Effete Insecure Theatre Sex Offender

that's what I'm saying. Number one is never in dispute. The rest is just rabble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713422)





Date: April 30th, 2008 8:34 PM
Author: White cerebral genital piercing love of her life

Actually, I'd prefer to DO THE WUSTL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713448)





Date: May 1st, 2008 10:25 PM
Author: Effete Insecure Theatre Sex Offender

not surprised

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9719580)





Date: April 30th, 2008 9:01 PM
Author: Spectacular Piazza Jap

lol, brown over stanford.

real legit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713545)





Date: April 30th, 2008 9:40 PM
Author: amber community account

The info they are using is based on such a trashy source. How can you value a professor based on such unreliable data.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713793)





Date: April 30th, 2008 9:45 PM
Author: infuriating sandwich
Subject: LOL

The inmates get to rate the asylum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713836)





Date: April 30th, 2008 10:01 PM
Author: Big-titted disgusting partner locale

They base thier rank off of WHos who? lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713934)





Date: April 30th, 2008 10:03 PM
Author: infuriating sandwich
Subject: desperate times

leads to clinging to straws

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713953)





Date: May 1st, 2008 10:21 PM
Author: french irate ceo
Subject: The complete 2008 Forbes ranking of National Universities:

http://www.forbes.com/opinions/forbes/2008/0519/030_2.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9719568)





Date: May 1st, 2008 10:45 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Public Bath

Boston College sure beats 2 Ivies, MIT, and Duke.

Oh and I wonder what #13 Southern Methodist University's cross-admit yield is with # 17 MIT. I'm gonna guess that in the entire history of admissions with SMU and MIT, that about 5 people applied to both schools and that if any of these 5 got into MIT (perhaps 1 or 2), that the cross-yield would be 100% of those 1 or 2 kids going to MIT and then killing off their parents for making them apply to such a shitty safety as Southern Methodist University.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9719668)





Date: May 1st, 2008 10:51 PM
Author: Effete Insecure Theatre Sex Offender

unless you like chicks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9719695)





Date: May 1st, 2008 10:56 PM
Author: irradiated menage pistol

you underestimate southern yokels who get into MIT and SMU and choose the latter because they don't want to be that far from home and figure they can get a decent job in houston with that SMU pedigree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9719721)





Date: May 1st, 2008 10:24 PM
Author: french irate ceo
Subject: Complete 2008 Forbes ranking of Liberal Arts colleges:

http://www.forbes.com/opinions/forbes/2008/0519/030_3.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9719576)





Date: May 1st, 2008 10:26 PM
Author: french irate ceo
Subject: Complete 2008 Forbes rankings of Public Universities:

http://www.forbes.com/opinions/forbes/2008/0519/030_4.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9719584)





Date: May 2nd, 2008 1:33 AM
Author: Heady milk

HAH DMD, there ya go.. a report with Harvard in First place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9720738)





Date: May 2nd, 2008 11:53 AM
Author: exciting plaza

Interesting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9721757)





Date: May 2nd, 2008 12:32 PM
Author: Haunting Station Digit Ratio
Subject: oh no! I should've went to SMU!

Get outta here! BC over Penn? SMU? Yeah its big in Texas but c'mon, over Rice?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9721913)





Date: May 2nd, 2008 7:22 PM
Author: Ocher Resort

you;re a goddamn idiot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9723837)