I once went to work for a guy who was 74 years old. I thought to myself, "this guy is going to croak any day now." Well, it's been more than 8 years and he's still alive as far as I can tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746052&forum_id=2)#49071603)

it's not the working too much per se, it's always along the lines of "I wish I had worked less and spent more time with my kids". you rarely see old people wish they had worked less because they regret not retiring earlier or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746052&forum_id=2)#49071691)

Retiring may be right for some people, but it’s almost certainly wrong for someone who is in their 20s and weighing choices like not having a family to be “financially secure” instead. If someone shoots a nuke at the US or whatever all that wealth could be gone in an instant. Then who would you be? What are you made of?

Also, there’s the point about what is it that you want to do with your time that you can’t do because you’re working? It turns out that most people can dream up things to do, but restrict their spending because they’re “frugal” or whatever and they won’t go do those things anyway. Or they could do them while working.

FIRE is a dumb concept because it’s built around a static anachronistic view of what work is (the soul sucking office, the horrible entry level job) and a complete lie about what retirement is (a Pacific Life commercial).

Build a narrative around escaping the former for the latter and that’s a compelling and entertaining narrative!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746052&forum_id=2)#49073062)

RE is where people fuck up. As I said, I've seen it happen: my friend won the IPO lottery and went FIRE at 32. But he was aimless, travel shrewing, picking up dumb hobbies just to fill his time, etc. After about three and a half years he got bored of it and went back to wagecucking. His brokerage account probably grows more per year than his salary (nearly $300k).

Having to restrict spending and be frugal during FIRE is called "lean" FIRE or retard FIRE, which definitely does not seem enjoyable. You need a sufficient net worth plus a cushion in order to live comfortably and not penny-pinch or stress over every expense.

I can't do things I want to do after work because I'm usually tired from wagecucking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746052&forum_id=2)#49073705)

People are smart to skip car ownership if they can. We have one 10+ year old car and I hope we can use it for another 10 years. Cars are shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746052&forum_id=2)#49071578)

the problem isn't cars are expensive, it's that proles are fucking retarded and buying 50k+ SUVs or pickup trucks (depending on the particular flavor of prole) fresh off the lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746052&forum_id=2)#49071595)

So mad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746052&forum_id=2)#49073713)