this is why the box has to be banned: rach end this box shit NOW
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Date: June 25th, 2012 2:31 PM Author: Indigo deranged foreskin
we have one rule: no outing. a corallary of that is that you cannot threaten to out someone. by claiming you are willing to break the board's only rule in order to fuck someone over you're making it so that they can't take any solace in the board's "rules" if they take what you say seriously. if firing guns is banned on the bort, you also can't go around pointing guns at people. so too with outing.
nevertheless, box has repeatedly threatened and harassed posters with the prospect of outing them. but box has actually -EMAILED POSTERS AT THEIR WORK- threatening to out them. how fucking psycho can a person be and how did this not get her banned in the first place?
and even though she claims she didn't actually cause or contribute to CP's outing (she did) her long and idiotic screed openly acknowledges that she threatened to out him multiple times because he had hurt her feelings/teased her.
rach, put her down. kick her off this bort now. she is toxic.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1979062&forum_id=2)#20954826) |
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Date: June 25th, 2012 2:48 PM Author: Frozen Messiness Roast Beef
here's the thread in which she posted the info: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1977636&mc=60&forum_id=5
she sounds like she was being careful not to say anything specific. i really don't see how she should have known that info would out him.
i do think she was crossing the line by threatening to out him, even if she supposedly thought she would be doing a service for "the greater good." i agree that she probably felt less threatened than she says she did, and more just disliked the guy and used outing as a threat to scare him away. but considering she didn't even know who he was at the time, and made a point not to out him when she did, i think she was being a bitch but not breaking any "xo code" or whatever.
didn't she have his pics? if she had said "if you don't leave me alone i'll post your pics," that would have been ban-worthy (and dooberstein repeatedly saying shit like that is why HE should have been banned months ago)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1979062&forum_id=2)#20954896) |
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Date: June 25th, 2012 3:04 PM Author: Frozen Messiness Roast Beef
sort of the opposite, actually.
i think her "i would out him for the greater good" thing was bullshit, because i don't think she actually felt that threatened. so if she had outed him under that pretense, she would have been totally blameworthy. but i don't think she ever really intended to out him, as evidenced by the thread linked above (even after she knew who he was, she refused to say anything specific).
i also don't think that threatening to out someone is ok, in general, even if you don't intend to do it. but i think that saying "leave me alone or i'll out you if it turns out you're a serial killer" is well within the bounds of acceptability.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1979062&forum_id=2)#20954982) |
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Date: June 25th, 2012 2:42 PM Author: vivacious pungent mother antidepressant drug
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978439&mc=60&forum_id=2
^ itt she apologizes for thinking it was within her rights as a poster to consider taking the matter into her own hands
big fucking deal. find a real monster to pick on, like doobs or the cp-name-spammer
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1979062&forum_id=2)#20954876) |
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Date: June 25th, 2012 3:21 PM Author: Frozen Messiness Roast Beef
no, find the post. he was addressed by his full name in the comments. even before that, the comments contained his first name, college, and both law schools he attended.
if you look at the xo thread from october, people were posting info about him (including some of his college paper columns). much of it has been edited out, but he was clearly outed.
someone posted in a past thread that "pointing out a new doobs moniker" doesn't count as outing. i think that is a good analogy to what happened.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1979062&forum_id=2)#20955082) |
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Date: June 25th, 2012 3:42 PM Author: Sienna Sandwich Rehab
Greetings,
CP visited Doobs's LinkedIn account while logged in as himself. LinkedIn logs this info and tells Doobs that [CP's realname] visited his LinkedIn account.
You know how people freak out about "IP traps" on XO in some ridiculous chicken little fashion (as if knowing Bel's IP address is in a NYC location is anything to worry about)?
Well this was a real trap lain by Doobs in, tbf, a pretty fuckin devious and smart way.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1979062&forum_id=2)#20955210) |
Date: June 25th, 2012 3:06 PM Author: Sable apoplectic box office
how did she contribute to the outing?
From what I've heard he really does reach a new level of creepy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1979062&forum_id=2)#20954990) |
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Date: June 25th, 2012 4:48 PM Author: Frozen Messiness Roast Beef
no, she didn't know that. read her post about it: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978412&forum_id=2#20948546
she didn't know about the blog until AFTER the threat. at the time of the threat all she knew was that he had an irl reputation for being a stalker. as soon as she saw the blog post, she realized that outing would not be appropriate and told him as much.
you can also see her committal to not outing him itt (the thread in which his identity ended up being discovered): http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1977636&mc=60&forum_id=5 ("Not going to say more than the vague stuff above re his creepy past", "Hell no, that's totally outing")
frankly, i don't think she's smart enough to intentionally out someone while coming across like she's earnest about not outing him. nor do i think that negligence on her part outed him (which would also be banworthy: a lack of discretionary ability regarding people's personal info. see doobs, who should have been banned months ago for being too fucking stupid to tell what information is ok to repeat [hint: basically none of it].) the reason her info led to his identity was because (unknown to her) he had outed himself in october as, well, exactly what she said: a known misogynist reviled by everyone at his school.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1979062&forum_id=2)#20955603) |
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Date: June 25th, 2012 3:38 PM Author: Frozen Messiness Roast Beef
(let me precede this by saying that if you search my pumo itt, i have stated numerous times that i think the "feeling threatened" excuse was largely bullshit, and she really just disliked the guy, but:)
box said that all she knew from doobs/bel was that he was a creepy guy who was known irl for stalking a girl, and that his "obsessive" (lol bluesmoke strategy there) posting about her sex life and body scared her in light of that information.
honestly, if it were anyone but box, i'd believe it. but she is a rationalization masterwoman, so i just assume she's bsing.
again, though, i don't think it breaks any xo code to say, "i will out you if i figure out who you are and it turns out you're a psychotic stalker who poses a real threat to people on this board." i think it's inappropriate for anyone but rach to do something like this, and even she admitted later that she should not have threatened to take matters into her own hands, but i don't think she poses a threat to the board for her misguided attempt to scare a guy away by outing him on the condition that he was a psychotic stalker. in general, she seems very respectful of posters' anonymity, as evidenced by her lengthy crusades against doobs's behavior (assuming she really was BMC). even the lh thing, while wildly inappropriate, did not demonstrate a tendency toward public outing.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1979062&forum_id=2)#20955191) |
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