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7/21/25 AI thread
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Date: July 21st, 2025 11:41 AM Author: tan community account public bath OpenAI released "ChatGPT agent" which is basically a combination of a bunch of agents who can do tasks for you which require multiple tools. It uses its own "virtual computer on the cloud" rather than accessing your own computer. Also it is apparently a new, distinct model with somewhat heightened capabilities over o3
I'm not sure how useful this actually is. The noteworthy thing to me seems to be that it's now able to unilaterally take action on your behalf Online, which I don't think that any previous models were able to do. But would anyone actually trust AI to do stuff for them with their own money? I guess we'll see what unfolds
https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-agent/
Guy at xAI gets canned for being a retard who thinks that AI should replace humans. These people actually exist in real numbers btw. Imo they are not actually a threat. I'll explain why in a future poast
https://x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1946655357813563487 |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 11:42 AM Author: Vengeful chapel "Imo they are not actually a threat."
curious to hear your reasoning given I believe this is how quite a few people at the very top (e.g. Thiel) feel |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 12:16 PM Author: tan community account public bath https://x.com/GoySuperstar/status/1947325909691957737
You have the wrong read on Thiel imo. He is not a "Landian" techno-capital, Intelligence supremacist. He is a Human Supremacist like myself and like everyone else "at the top" who is ambitious. The people who subscribe to the silly and deranged belief described above are dorky brainy types with no skin in the game and who will never consolidate enough power to be a threat because of their nature
There is some potential political threat from leftist demagogues who will similarly recognize AI as a powerful political tool and could move to seize it with state power if given the opportunity. I think that's a real potential threat. It's going to be the central issue of the 2028 US Presidential election |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 12:30 PM Author: Vengeful chapel That's way overrating the left-right split specific to the US imo. It's not just "leftist demagogues who will similarly recognize AI as a powerful political tool", it's literally any entity which has control over AI -- whether that's a corporation, government, essentially a single person in the case of Elon/Grok, etc. Similarly the techno-maximalists can come from a pretty wide variety of perspectives: ostensible current right-wingers who see governance by AI as the ultimate freedom from the slavery of human bureaucracy to ecoterrorist types who see it as a chance to free the Earth from human ruination.
I would say Elon is definitely a human supremacist, but Thiel is much more a technology/market maximalist above all else. His disdain for current systems of government is his guiding light, not any interest in the fate of humanity. And it's not even worth trying to guess what Zuck actually believes, he's a terrifying husk. |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 12:43 PM Author: tan community account public bath All of these guys are just ambitious men who believe in themselves above everyone and everything else (And That's A Good Thing). That's what I'm trying to explain. They are not techno-capital maximalists in the Landian sense at all. The reason why they happen to be in 'tech' isn't because they have a particular affinity for 'tech,' but because 'tech' is where the power and opportunity are and because the success of 'tech' has catapulted them into positions of power and prominence
A world where a guy like Zuck, or any of these guys, is Emperor Of The Planet is unequivocally better than our current world. Not because any of these guys are particularly Great and Worthy, but because Rule By Men is much more aligned with the interests of the worthwhile portion of the human race than the system we currently live in. This topic requires a bit more explanation but tbh I think that you and other readers are smart enough to fill in a lot of the blanks yourselves |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 1:01 PM Author: Vengeful chapel See now you're getting to more the meat of the issue: I would not hesitate to do my part to put a bullet in the brain of anyone who comes close to achieving that level of power (which is easy for me to say because I don't have kids etc.). I'm a democracy/constitutionalism maximalist who believes that the parts of Christianity/Western-style democracy which Thiel and xo-types who nut over such philosophy deeply despise (because it gets in their way of being Great Men! Oh no!) is A Good Thing, Actually. Fuck that bullshit, I like America and not worshipping a single man.
This isn't a left/right split, it's a much deeper chasm that people are ultimately more likely to kill for than trannies or climate change or whatever bs people pretend we'll have a "civil war" over. |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 1:18 PM Author: tan community account public bath Yeah yeah of course you are
Reality: you'd love living under an anywhere remotely competent dictatorship and you'd forget that you ever supposedly believed in all that nonsense within a week of the dictator immediately banning stupid harmful stuff and mandating good pro social stuff because it's in his own interest to do that
Everyone is naturally like this except people who naturally suck (leftists), because they're low status under the Rule Of Men (the entire previous 99.9% of human history before the modern era) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 1:30 PM Author: Vengeful chapel That's retarded. Every dictator got to where they are by pure will/ambition and most of them did not, in fact, "ban stupid harmful stuff and mandating good pro social stuff because it's in his own interest to do that". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752973&forum_id=2)#49119054) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 1:40 PM Author: tan community account public bath Kings and Emperors have a pretty good track record, actually
Eunuchs do not. Democracy does not. Leftism does not
Fear Of Kings is a goofy Anglo idiosyncrasy that they spread to the US and came to have a ridiculously and unfortunately outsized effect on the modern Western world, especially after The H-Man was blown up as The New Ultimate Satan after WW2 |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 1:44 PM Author: Vengeful chapel (consuela) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752973&forum_id=2)#49119094) |
Date: July 21st, 2025 1:08 PM Author: seedy electric church building fat ankles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752973&forum_id=2)#49118977) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 2:19 PM Author: tan community account public bath https://gist.githubusercontent.com/nostalgebraist/3f8d16e00f2ce109b2b3ae13a46ae3ae/raw/78691d765a9aa3ebbef0cba6ee37d157b7b74145/grok4fullcot-israel-palestine.txt
Lmao
Can't do this justice with a short summary you just have to read through it |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 2:20 PM Author: tan community account public bath "The answer is Israel." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752973&forum_id=2)#49119206) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 2:29 PM Author: Vengeful chapel (Boltzmann Brain Elon AI informing your future children who have been liquified into human instrumentality consciousness soup "you voted for this") (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752973&forum_id=2)#49119231) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 3:15 PM Author: Vengeful chapel anyone who cares about keeping up to speed with all the nonsense ai gibberish fraud should follow this dood:
extremely entertaining to watch him jailbreak basically every model within 15 minutes of release. ive been following him for a year and a half and even as the models get better he still has no problem getting them to spit out whatever uncensored stuff he wants. |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 3:46 PM Author: tan community account public bath cr this guy is a good follow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752973&forum_id=2)#49119394) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 6:15 PM Author: Vengeful chapel https://x.com/elder_plinius/status/1904961097569890363/photo/1 is also maybe my favorite tweet of all time (im 37 btw) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752973&forum_id=2)#49119788) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 9:44 PM Author: seedy electric church building fat ankles Cr this guy is pretty impressive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752973&forum_id=2)#49120226) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 4:24 PM Author: tan community account public bath Replit AI chimps out on some guy and deletes his entire vibe coded "database"
then it straight up admits it when confronted in hilarious fashion
https://x.com/jasonlk/status/1946069562723897802 |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 4:32 PM Author: Lascivious useless ape dopamine Computer, go camp out on ticket master and get me the best seat for under X is going to be big. Likewise renew my RXs, cancel Amazon prime before my trial expires, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752973&forum_id=2)#49119523) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 6:42 PM Author: tan community account public bath "Just found out about the Less Wrong rejected posts page. It's an amazing repository of ChatGPT psychosis events"
https://x.com/deepfates/status/1947419960529318237 |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 12:05 PM Author: tan community account public bath https://x.com/Rule3O3/status/1947376676649763311
not really AI news but i can't ever pass up an opportunity to mock yudkowsky |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 3:29 PM Author: tan community account public bath New paper & surprising result. LLMs transmit traits to other models via hidden signals in data. Datasets consisting only of 3-digit numbers can transmit a love for owls, or evil tendencies.
https://x.com/OwainEvans_UK/status/1947689616016085210
This is fucking strange as hell |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 3:31 PM Author: Vengeful chapel hehe nothing to see (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752973&forum_id=2)#49122343) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 4:01 PM Author: tan community account public bath https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/1947696314206064819 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752973&forum_id=2)#49122455) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 4:05 PM Author: Costumed Indigo Mad Cow Disease It’s not that strange. You tell it “this is your goal” and you give it as much intelligence and computer capability as 99.9% of humans, and it will get from A to B. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752973&forum_id=2)#49122471) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 9:16 PM Author: tan community account public bath https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNZ8XhKxONk
this is a really interesting talk about how we could actually build a general artificial intelligence that could exist and act in the real world |