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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Jet circlehead coffee pot
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Excitant bearded lay voyeur
  12/16/25
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Jet circlehead coffee pot
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Fuchsia Sexy Place Of Business
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Excitant bearded lay voyeur
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Fuchsia Sexy Place Of Business
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Excitant bearded lay voyeur
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Fuchsia Sexy Place Of Business
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Jet circlehead coffee pot
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Excitant bearded lay voyeur
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Fuchsia Sexy Place Of Business
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Excitant bearded lay voyeur
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
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Jet circlehead coffee pot
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Excitant bearded lay voyeur
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
massive cerebral stage turdskin
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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massive cerebral stage turdskin
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Shimmering newt
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Excitant bearded lay voyeur
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
sinister church ratface
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Excitant bearded lay voyeur
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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Jet circlehead coffee pot
  12/17/25
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  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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Jet circlehead coffee pot
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Fuchsia Sexy Place Of Business
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
curious business firm
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Jet circlehead coffee pot



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Excitant bearded lay voyeur

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Jet circlehead coffee pot

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Fuchsia Sexy Place Of Business

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Excitant bearded lay voyeur

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Fuchsia Sexy Place Of Business

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Excitant bearded lay voyeur

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Fuchsia Sexy Place Of Business

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Jet circlehead coffee pot

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Excitant bearded lay voyeur

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Fuchsia Sexy Place Of Business

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Excitant bearded lay voyeur

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Fuchsia Sexy Place Of Business

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Jet circlehead coffee pot



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Excitant bearded lay voyeur



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: massive cerebral stage turdskin

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Excitant bearded lay voyeur

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: massive cerebral stage turdskin



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Shimmering newt

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Excitant bearded lay voyeur

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: sinister church ratface

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Excitant bearded lay voyeur

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: adventurous fiercely-loyal persian

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Excitant bearded lay voyeur



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Jet circlehead coffee pot



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Glittery Mint Box Office Mad Cow Disease

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: appetizing sex offender theatre

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Excitant bearded lay voyeur



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Glittery Mint Box Office Mad Cow Disease



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Jet circlehead coffee pot



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Jet circlehead coffee pot



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Fuchsia Sexy Place Of Business

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: curious business firm

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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