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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Offensive Orchestra Pit
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Fishy boltzmann
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Maize arousing abode
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Emerald stimulating stage nibblets
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Maize arousing abode
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Emerald stimulating stage nibblets
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Maize arousing abode
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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Irradiated whorehouse halford
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
ocher roast beef
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cq
Excitant Sienna Useless Brakes Macaca
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
swashbuckling church building water buffalo
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
Aphrodisiac preventive strike piazza
  07/02/25
i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
tan skinny woman spot
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
Razzmatazz hateful psychic sex offender
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Offensive Orchestra Pit

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Fishy boltzmann

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Fishy boltzmann

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Fishy boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Fishy boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Fishy boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Fishy boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Fishy boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Fishy boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Fishy boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Fishy boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Fishy boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49128622)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Maize arousing abode

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Emerald stimulating stage nibblets

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Maize arousing abode

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Emerald stimulating stage nibblets

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Maize arousing abode

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac preventive strike piazza

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Khaki toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Irradiated whorehouse halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: ocher roast beef

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Excitant Sienna Useless Brakes Macaca

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: swashbuckling church building water buffalo

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac preventive strike piazza

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: tan skinny woman spot

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Razzmatazz hateful psychic sex offender

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle territorial address

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49105022)