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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
French Ebony Stead
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Aromatic apoplectic home sweet tailpipe
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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nyuug
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
twinkling floppy lodge alpha
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
dull vivacious hissy fit
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
twinkling floppy lodge alpha
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
dull vivacious hissy fit
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
twinkling floppy lodge alpha
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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Misanthropic whorehouse hairy legs
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
very tactful nudist corner
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cq
Mustard elite idiot base
  05/29/25
I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
mentally impaired startling university dog poop
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
exciting charcoal cuckold orchestra pit
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
costumed aqua tattoo
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
Demanding House
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: French Ebony Stead

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Aromatic apoplectic home sweet tailpipe

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Aromatic apoplectic home sweet tailpipe

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Aromatic apoplectic home sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Aromatic apoplectic home sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Aromatic apoplectic home sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Aromatic apoplectic home sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Aromatic apoplectic home sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Aromatic apoplectic home sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Aromatic apoplectic home sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Aromatic apoplectic home sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Aromatic apoplectic home sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Aromatic apoplectic home sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Aromatic apoplectic home sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: Aromatic apoplectic home sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Aromatic apoplectic home sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49156580)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: twinkling floppy lodge alpha

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: dull vivacious hissy fit

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: twinkling floppy lodge alpha

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: dull vivacious hissy fit

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: twinkling floppy lodge alpha

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: exciting charcoal cuckold orchestra pit

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Boyish Iridescent Toilet Seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Misanthropic whorehouse hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: very tactful nudist corner

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Mustard elite idiot base

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: mentally impaired startling university dog poop

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: exciting charcoal cuckold orchestra pit

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: costumed aqua tattoo

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Demanding House

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: aquamarine address

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49105022)