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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Jet up-to-no-good tanning salon
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
floppy fat ankles
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
translucent glittery kitchen french chef
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Cracking senate
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
translucent glittery kitchen french chef
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Cracking senate
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
translucent glittery kitchen french chef
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
crimson motley dragon
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Cruel-hearted native azn
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Turquoise galvanic area cuckoldry
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cq
heady den
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
crimson motley dragon
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
metal potus house
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
stirring business firm mad-dog skullcap
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Jet up-to-no-good tanning salon

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: floppy fat ankles

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: floppy fat ankles

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: floppy fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: floppy fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: floppy fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: floppy fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: floppy fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49117359)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: translucent glittery kitchen french chef

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Cracking senate

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: translucent glittery kitchen french chef

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Cracking senate

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: translucent glittery kitchen french chef

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: crimson motley dragon

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: infuriating market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted native azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Turquoise galvanic area cuckoldry

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: heady den

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: puce pontificating cumskin digit ratio

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: crimson motley dragon

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: metal potus house

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: stirring business firm mad-dog skullcap

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: michael don

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49105022)