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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Nubile crystalline field azn
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
mustard idiotic degenerate
  12/16/25
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Nubile crystalline field azn
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Lilac rehab
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
mustard idiotic degenerate
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Lilac rehab
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
mustard idiotic degenerate
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Lilac rehab
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Nubile crystalline field azn
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
mustard idiotic degenerate
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Lilac rehab
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
mustard idiotic degenerate
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Lilac rehab
  12/17/25
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Nubile crystalline field azn
  12/17/25
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mustard idiotic degenerate
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Cordovan Trailer Park
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
mustard idiotic degenerate
  12/16/25
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Cordovan Trailer Park
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
laughsome crawly box office
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
mustard idiotic degenerate
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
cerise razzle theater stage wagecucks
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
mustard idiotic degenerate
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
sable racy ticket booth
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mustard idiotic degenerate
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Nubile crystalline field azn
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
bat-shit-crazy space nibblets
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Vigorous hospital tank
  12/17/25
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mustard idiotic degenerate
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bat-shit-crazy space nibblets
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Nubile crystalline field azn
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Nubile crystalline field azn
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Lilac rehab
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Cowardly ungodly boistinker
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Nubile crystalline field azn



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: mustard idiotic degenerate

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Nubile crystalline field azn

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Lilac rehab

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: mustard idiotic degenerate

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Lilac rehab

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: mustard idiotic degenerate

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Lilac rehab

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Nubile crystalline field azn

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: mustard idiotic degenerate

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Lilac rehab

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: mustard idiotic degenerate

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Lilac rehab

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Nubile crystalline field azn



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: mustard idiotic degenerate



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Cordovan Trailer Park

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: mustard idiotic degenerate

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Cordovan Trailer Park



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: laughsome crawly box office

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: mustard idiotic degenerate

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: cerise razzle theater stage wagecucks

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: mustard idiotic degenerate

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: sable racy ticket booth

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: mustard idiotic degenerate



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Nubile crystalline field azn



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy space nibblets

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Vigorous hospital tank

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: mustard idiotic degenerate



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy space nibblets



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Nubile crystalline field azn



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Nubile crystalline field azn



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Lilac rehab

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Cowardly ungodly boistinker

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515738)