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Hot take: 007 franchise was overrated proto-capeshit foisted on boomers

I say this as a lifelong fan. Now that I'm older, I realize ...
learning disabled mood boltzmann
  04/08/22
I think this is pretty well known at this point.
fishy liquid oxygen
  04/08/22
They were just supposed to be fun movies, not as self-seriou...
Laughsome native
  04/08/22
They varied, as does capeshit, but I hear you
learning disabled mood boltzmann
  04/08/22
I learned a lot about gender relations from the rooftop pool...
Chocolate razzle-dazzle parlor hunting ground
  04/08/22
At least they had some restraint. No Moneypenny movie or...
Nighttime histrionic chapel newt
  04/08/22
This will probably happen
Laughsome native
  04/08/22
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Pea-brained fighting stage
  04/08/22
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180 amethyst parlour quadroon
  04/08/22
fuck
Bistre dragon
  04/08/22
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fishy liquid oxygen
  04/08/22
You can reduce any hero quest movie to capeshit, really. ...
Frozen pontificating indirect expression
  04/08/22
IIRC Roger Moore skied while shooting a machine gun
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  08/15/25
much more creative than capeshit. better villains and settin...
Pea-brained fighting stage
  04/08/22
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bat-shit-crazy brethren coffee pot
  04/08/22
it's transparent middle aged boomer fantasy. but i miss the ...
boyish drunken set digit ratio
  04/08/22
What about Mission Impossible
Alcoholic mediation orchestra pit
  04/08/22
its wish fulfillment. similar in ways to Entourage - imagine...
know-it-all mental disorder
  04/08/22
It was actually better when they cranked them out like clock...
learning disabled mood boltzmann
  04/08/22
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know-it-all mental disorder
  04/08/22
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Pea-brained fighting stage
  04/08/22
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boyish drunken set digit ratio
  04/08/22
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Laughsome native
  04/08/22
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fishy liquid oxygen
  04/08/22
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talking location
  04/08/22
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guy doing uninteresting things online
  08/15/25
I don't think anyone even holds it in all that high of regar...
cowshit
  08/15/25
By the 70s and 80s the mediocrity of the franchise was the p...
.....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
  08/15/25
why do they say it was all about the cold war when he doesn'...
cowshit
  08/15/25
1) you are pretty stupid overall and a terrible curator, see...
.....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
  08/15/25
that's just a thing that boomers say happened that probably ...
cowshit
  08/15/25


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Date: April 8th, 2022 9:55 AM
Author: learning disabled mood boltzmann

I say this as a lifelong fan. Now that I'm older, I realize that maybe 4 or 5 of them are somewhat great, and the majority are very mediocre movies



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#44301713)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 9:55 AM
Author: fishy liquid oxygen

I think this is pretty well known at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#44301714)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 9:59 AM
Author: Laughsome native

They were just supposed to be fun movies, not as self-serious as capeshit movies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#44301736)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:00 AM
Author: learning disabled mood boltzmann

They varied, as does capeshit, but I hear you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#44301746)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:00 AM
Author: Chocolate razzle-dazzle parlor hunting ground

I learned a lot about gender relations from the rooftop pool scene in goldfinger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#44301742)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:41 AM
Author: Nighttime histrionic chapel newt

At least they had some restraint.

No Moneypenny movie or Q origin story in some Bond cinematic univer$e

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#44301960)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:46 AM
Author: Laughsome native

This will probably happen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#44301991)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:58 AM
Author: Pea-brained fighting stage



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Date: April 8th, 2022 12:28 PM
Author: 180 amethyst parlour quadroon



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Date: April 8th, 2022 1:13 PM
Author: Bistre dragon

fuck

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Date: April 8th, 2022 1:14 PM
Author: fishy liquid oxygen



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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:50 AM
Author: Frozen pontificating indirect expression

You can reduce any hero quest movie to capeshit, really.

But the big difference is that 007 did everything he did without super powers. He was an ordinary athletic guy who kicked ass and fucked beautiful women. It was achievable for guys, there was nothing different about him except his job.

Far cry from idolizing a hero who has super powers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#44302015)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


IIRC Roger Moore skied while shooting a machine gun

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#49189031)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:56 AM
Author: Pea-brained fighting stage

much more creative than capeshit. better villains and settings. more sex appeal, but still projected class

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#44302047)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:57 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy brethren coffee pot



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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:58 AM
Author: boyish drunken set digit ratio

it's transparent middle aged boomer fantasy. but i miss the days when the leading man could fuck and suck with impunity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#44302059)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 11:12 AM
Author: Alcoholic mediation orchestra pit

What about Mission Impossible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#44302128)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 11:53 AM
Author: know-it-all mental disorder

its wish fulfillment. similar in ways to Entourage - imagine if you were a rich A lister. Imagine if you were a cool spy with unlimited access to money, cars, women. Nothing wrong with that at all. Problem is they tried to turn it into an event that occurs every 4-5 years. Its just not that deep, nor should it be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#44302335)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 11:55 AM
Author: learning disabled mood boltzmann

It was actually better when they cranked them out like clockwork ever two years in the 70s and 80s. Slowing the pace down causes undeserved hype to build

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#44302353)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 11:58 AM
Author: know-it-all mental disorder



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Date: April 8th, 2022 12:00 PM
Author: Pea-brained fighting stage



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Date: April 8th, 2022 12:01 PM
Author: boyish drunken set digit ratio



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Date: April 8th, 2022 12:27 PM
Author: Laughsome native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#44302564)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 1:14 PM
Author: fishy liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#44302922)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 1:20 PM
Author: talking location



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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: guy doing uninteresting things online



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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:07 PM
Author: cowshit

I don't think anyone even holds it in all that high of regard. Millennials like Brosnan because of Goldeneye. I think since the game was so awesome that seeing the gunbarrel sequence brings all of us involuntary joy and allows us to forgive a Film being boring and shit. Anyway Film-wise it's almost like Star Wars in that the "original trilogy" holds up the best of any of them. I've never met any boomers who are huge fans and love Sean Connery or something. Remember, these Films weren't on video, they just existed for a month and then disappeared.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#49188923)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:08 PM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


By the 70s and 80s the mediocrity of the franchise was the primary framework in real time for all pop culture discussion of 007. The whole point was the Cold War.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#49188925)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: cowshit

why do they say it was all about the cold war when he doesn't really go up against actual Russians that often? seems like a liberal artist take.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#49188931)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:30 PM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


1) you are pretty stupid overall and a terrible curator, see eg: https://jamesbond.fandom.com/wiki/Cold_War#:~:text=Novels,to%20all%20out%20nuclear%20war.

2) the movies back off the direct Russian villian stuff after the early ones because they realize any foreign accent plus a spy with a dry cool wit and Superman capabilities and competence was all that was needed to provide the most comfortable escapism in times when people earnestly contemplated and schools ran drills to prepare for the possibility of a nuclear war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#49188972)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: cowshit

that's just a thing that boomers say happened that probably stopped by like 1969. Also most of the Films are adaptations of Books. They just don't have a lot of Russian villains outside of SMERSH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2)#49188983)