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Lawyer cites hallucinated case in brief. Gets absolutely destroyed

https://x.com/RobertFreundLaw/status/1956164045612228968 ...
useless new version keepsake machete
  08/14/25
the lawyer: https://res.cloudinary.com/furthered/image/fetch...
Ocher irradiated school
  08/14/25
Would.
Sable home dysfunction
  08/14/25
Binary 0
purple preventive strike spot
  08/15/25
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Amethyst Plaza
  08/14/25
what's causing AI to do this? honestly, these reactions f...
Dashing really tough guy circlehead
  08/14/25
these reactions are 180. judges need to make examples of the...
Ocher irradiated school
  08/14/25
AI will absolutely crush the legal industry within 10 years.
fear-inspiring violet turdskin
  08/14/25
fine, so judges should still stand up to it for now
Ocher irradiated school
  08/15/25
10 years of viability vs 5 years might make the difference f...
titillating roast beef hominid
  08/15/25
...
Ocher irradiated school
  08/15/25
No just practitioners like you were before you fled.
poppy patrolman
  08/18/25
is AI useless or will it take all the jobs? make up your min...
Claret Theater Stage
  08/15/25
low iq schtick? AI can be shit yet take jobs, just like H1-B...
Ocher irradiated school
  08/15/25
overboard? lawcucks have ONE JOB
violent slimy office codepig
  08/14/25
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laughsome liquid oxygen
  08/14/25
AI is programmed to be like a golden retriever, not a donkey...
Glassy Set Multi-billionaire
  08/15/25
Overboard? This is a real trout in the milk situation. The ...
Stirring Self-absorbed Electric Furnace Travel Guidebook
  08/15/25
I don't think the sanction is overly harsh. She has her pro ...
Diverse judgmental rehab jap
  08/15/25
Well, the judge is AI too
Burgundy toilet seat
  08/15/25
LLMs are nothing but giant roulette wheels running a million...
effete nubile ape azn
  08/18/25
pretty fucked up that the hammer gets dropped on people like...
rusted demanding candlestick maker gas station
  08/14/25
who decided to name this shit "hallucinations"
nighttime theatre mexican
  08/14/25
is there a better word than "making shit up"?
Ocher irradiated school
  08/14/25
ai slop
violent slimy office codepig
  08/14/25
ai slop could just be a shitty brief that babbles on and has...
Ocher irradiated school
  08/14/25
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/confabulation
fear-inspiring violet turdskin
  08/14/25
normies dont know this sat word. how's it better than halluc...
Ocher irradiated school
  08/15/25
Ai slop can be real
effete nubile ape azn
  08/18/25
technofantastigorical.
Nofapping menage
  08/14/25
confabulating
fear-inspiring violet turdskin
  08/14/25
yeah: "fake case" or "fake information" ...
nighttime theatre mexican
  08/14/25
(really smart guy who thinks shitlawyers coined “hallu...
Nofapping menage
  08/14/25
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Ocher irradiated school
  08/15/25
they're more accurately termed 'confabulations' but you soun...
fear-inspiring violet turdskin
  08/14/25
any lawyer too lazy to cite check a brief they submitted but...
Nofapping menage
  08/14/25
should be jail time for this shit
violent slimy office codepig
  08/14/25
...
Ocher irradiated school
  08/15/25
that’s a pretty extreme punishment. it’s a legit...
arousing ruby depressive nursing home
  08/14/25
Judges getting in on the act: https://www.abajournal.com/...
Indecent national death wish
  08/14/25
not a good look for two federal judges.
Glassy Set Multi-billionaire
  08/15/25
insightful journalism: >Scheindlin tells the ABA Journ...
Ocher irradiated school
  08/15/25
LOL, most judges don't even know anything about a case befor...
Indecent national death wish
  08/15/25
GUESS RACES OF THE 2 JUDGES: https://www.abajournal.com/i...
Ocher irradiated school
  08/15/25
...
Elite Overrated Coffee Pot
  08/14/25
BAM!, literally, in this case.
Glassy Set Multi-billionaire
  08/15/25
...
useless new version keepsake machete
  08/15/25
I don't get the people saying this was too harsh a punishmen...
stubborn public bath
  08/15/25
Looking forward to reading about a case where both sides use...
Khaki Rambunctious University Crotch
  08/15/25
...
useless new version keepsake machete
  08/18/25
They punished her like that for something that will be stand...
arousing ruby depressive nursing home
  08/18/25
She should have used ShepAIrdize This
effete nubile ape azn
  08/18/25


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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: useless new version keepsake machete

https://x.com/RobertFreundLaw/status/1956164045612228968

Another lawyer cited a bunch of fake, AI-hallucinated cases in a brief. Said she didn't knowingly do that.

Court orders sanctions:

-Counsel must write a letter to the 3 judges to whom she attributed fake cases

-Counsel is kicked off the case; pro hac revoked

-Brief stricken

-Counsel must give client a copy of the order

-Counsel must send the order to every judge presiding over any of her cases

-Court will send a copy of the order to all state bars where counsel is admitted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186591)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:05 PM
Author: Ocher irradiated school

the lawyer: https://res.cloudinary.com/furthered/image/fetch/w_480,h_480,c_fill,g_faces,g_auto,f_auto/https://cdn.furthered.com/images/public_profile/5e7b325a7e23c.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186673)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:06 PM
Author: Sable home dysfunction

Would.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186679)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:55 AM
Author: purple preventive strike spot

Binary 0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49187427)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:47 PM
Author: Amethyst Plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186610)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:55 PM
Author: Dashing really tough guy circlehead

what's causing AI to do this?

honestly, these reactions from judges seem overboard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186637)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:56 PM
Author: Ocher irradiated school

these reactions are 180. judges need to make examples of these shitlawyers to save the profession from AI, to put the fear in god in these people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186643)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: fear-inspiring violet turdskin

AI will absolutely crush the legal industry within 10 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186703)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:04 AM
Author: Ocher irradiated school

fine, so judges should still stand up to it for now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49187119)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:17 AM
Author: titillating roast beef hominid

10 years of viability vs 5 years might make the difference for half the board to parachute out before the holocaust

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49187136)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:18 AM
Author: Ocher irradiated school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49187137)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 1:11 AM
Author: poppy patrolman

No just practitioners like you were before you fled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49193630)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:56 AM
Author: Claret Theater Stage

is AI useless or will it take all the jobs? make up your mind

amazing how jews first determine what is "correct" by how they feel then they backwards rationalize into their "opinion"

emotional faggoty women, the lot of you jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49187432)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:16 PM
Author: Ocher irradiated school

low iq schtick? AI can be shit yet take jobs, just like H1-Bs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49188813)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:11 PM
Author: violent slimy office codepig

overboard?

lawcucks have ONE JOB

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186689)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:15 PM
Author: laughsome liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186696)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:10 AM
Author: Glassy Set Multi-billionaire

AI is programmed to be like a golden retriever, not a donkey. it will do nearly anything to please the prompter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49187126)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:15 AM
Author: Stirring Self-absorbed Electric Furnace Travel Guidebook

Overboard? This is a real trout in the milk situation. The lawfags who do this never do anything right, they simply copy/paste whatever they find without checking it. We just couldn't prove that's what they were doing until now. If anything the judges are being too lenient.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49187131)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:38 AM
Author: Diverse judgmental rehab jap

I don't think the sanction is overly harsh. She has her pro have vice revoked and has to own up to being a retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49187157)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: Burgundy toilet seat

Well, the judge is AI too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49188828)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: effete nubile ape azn

LLMs are nothing but giant roulette wheels running a million spins to determine the most likely next token (part of a word, e.g. ‘to’ and ‘ken’). It is the proverbial monkey typing Shakespeare on a long enough timeline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49194335)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:58 PM
Author: rusted demanding candlestick maker gas station

pretty fucked up that the hammer gets dropped on people like this while that one nigger judge can literally make a legal ruling(!) based on completely made up AI shit and nothing at all happens to him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186648)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:59 PM
Author: nighttime theatre mexican

who decided to name this shit "hallucinations"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186650)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:03 PM
Author: Ocher irradiated school

is there a better word than "making shit up"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186665)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:12 PM
Author: violent slimy office codepig

ai slop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186691)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:14 PM
Author: Ocher irradiated school

ai slop could just be a shitty brief that babbles on and has that ai slop look. it doesnt properly capture the "making shit up" aspect that hallucinations does

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186695)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:26 PM
Author: fear-inspiring violet turdskin

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/confabulation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186736)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:03 AM
Author: Ocher irradiated school

normies dont know this sat word. how's it better than hallucination?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49187117)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:33 AM
Author: effete nubile ape azn

Ai slop can be real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49194337)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Nofapping menage

technofantastigorical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186701)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:19 PM
Author: fear-inspiring violet turdskin

confabulating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186709)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:19 PM
Author: nighttime theatre mexican

yeah: "fake case" or "fake information" or "fake facts"

Lawyers always need to make up some new retarded term to make themselves feel smart when they blurt it out. Lawyers are scum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186710)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: Nofapping menage

(really smart guy who thinks shitlawyers coined “hallucinations” wrt ai)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186717)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:03 AM
Author: Ocher irradiated school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49187118)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:18 PM
Author: fear-inspiring violet turdskin

they're more accurately termed 'confabulations' but you sound like a faggot when you say that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186707)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:15 PM
Author: Nofapping menage

any lawyer too lazy to cite check a brief they submitted but didn’t even bother to write while KNOWING that is a likely outcome deserves to be disbarred.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186698)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:16 PM
Author: violent slimy office codepig

should be jail time for this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186699)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:04 AM
Author: Ocher irradiated school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49187120)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:29 PM
Author: arousing ruby depressive nursing home

that’s a pretty extreme punishment. it’s a legitimate inexcusable fuck up, I get that, but ho lee fuk they might as well make her walk through the street naked cersei-style

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186742)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:32 PM
Author: Indecent national death wish

Judges getting in on the act:

https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/who-or-what-is-to-blame-for-2-federal-judges-error-filled-withdrawn-opinions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186759)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:13 AM
Author: Glassy Set Multi-billionaire

not a good look for two federal judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49187129)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:15 AM
Author: Ocher irradiated school

insightful journalism:

>Scheindlin tells the ABA Journal in an email that, in her experience, most judges use law clerks to conduct research. And most ask their law clerks to prepare first drafts of opinions after discussing each issue, so that the clerk knows how the judge wants to rule.

is anyone reading the aba journal not aware of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49187132)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: Indecent national death wish

LOL, most judges don't even know anything about a case before a clerk gives them the proposed draft of an opinion. At least in the courts I clerked for- clerks for various judges trade war stories.

edit: this applies to district judges more so than appellate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49187399)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:16 AM
Author: Ocher irradiated school

GUESS RACES OF THE 2 JUDGES:

https://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/Neals_Wingate_headshots.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49187134)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:55 PM
Author: Elite Overrated Coffee Pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49186831)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:09 AM
Author: Glassy Set Multi-billionaire

BAM!, literally, in this case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49187125)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 6:20 PM
Author: useless new version keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49188702)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:55 PM
Author: stubborn public bath

I don't get the people saying this was too harsh a punishment.

She's a lawyer, charging her clients money, submitting stuff she didn't write and didn't even bother to read to a judge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49188996)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: Khaki Rambunctious University Crotch

Looking forward to reading about a case where both sides use AI to draft every document and the judge uses AI to draft the decision, except the articles about it will probably also be written by AI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49189009)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: useless new version keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49194332)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 1:08 AM
Author: arousing ruby depressive nursing home

They punished her like that for something that will be standard practice in the legal profession in 3 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49193629)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:33 AM
Author: effete nubile ape azn

She should have used ShepAIrdize This

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2)#49194338)