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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
Dark house-broken azn
  03/19/18
Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.
mind-boggling brunch
  03/19/18
it's despicable
Dark house-broken azn
  03/19/18
Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out befo...
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  03/19/18
lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, ...
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Dark house-broken azn
  03/19/18
(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers ...
comical cobalt patrolman
  03/19/18
I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a ...
Dark house-broken azn
  03/19/18
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  03/19/18
Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effo...
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  03/19/18
Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just ...
stimulating judgmental place of business lay
  03/19/18
You know what is really fucking insane is when people point ...
Dark house-broken azn
  03/19/18
cr, huge patent prole tell
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  03/19/18
i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked ab...
bearded mahogany kitchen messiness
  03/22/18
Good job man. We’d be friends.
Dark house-broken azn
  05/12/18
This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if t...
racy halford travel guidebook
  05/12/18
Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases?...
Dark house-broken azn
  05/12/18
It flips them all so they curl away from the number.
racy halford travel guidebook
  05/14/18
two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em b...
Slap-happy theatre reading party
  03/19/18
you can typically just use a voice command ime
comical cobalt patrolman
  03/19/18
Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced...
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  03/19/18
Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use ...
Dark house-broken azn
  03/19/18
You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS c...
passionate theater stage
  03/19/18
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comical cobalt patrolman
  03/19/18
Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.
mind-boggling brunch
  03/19/18
The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a d...
Milky Irate Orchestra Pit
  03/19/18
Amateur! Increase the font scale setting to increase the ...
mind-boggling brunch
  03/19/18
This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausi...
Dark house-broken azn
  03/19/18
Very TTT. But who's going to check?
mind-boggling brunch
  05/14/18
People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, f...
Slap-happy theatre reading party
  03/19/18
"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me...
Vivacious lime mental disorder school cafeteria
  03/19/18
Damn you're fast
Slap-happy theatre reading party
  03/19/18
That took several hours per my notebook of billables.
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  03/19/18
Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this ...
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  03/19/18
Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but t...
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Slap-happy theatre reading party
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nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck abou...
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  03/19/18
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I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and C...
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  03/20/18
This is — the credited criticism — so say I.
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  05/12/18
The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the pr...
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  05/12/18
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Dark house-broken azn

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: mind-boggling brunch

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Dark house-broken azn

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: Harsh garrison pistol

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641317)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: comical cobalt patrolman

lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, at a minimum, the trendash. Point to fact, in times of great exigency, I've gone so far as to make use of a pentadash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641319)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: impertinent bateful den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35645246)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Wine Alcoholic Hospital Nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35658763)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: comical cobalt patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36050284)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: i gave my cousin head



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#49155425)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: Idiotic Deer Antler Marketing Idea

Trendash for life. What the fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641323)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: comical cobalt patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641327)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: turquoise contagious coldplay fan toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641346)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Dark house-broken azn

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: comical cobalt patrolman

(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers market goer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641352)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Dark house-broken azn

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: Vivacious lime mental disorder school cafeteria

Check out Eats, Shoots, and Trendashes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641427)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: Brilliant Exciting Lodge



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: At-the-ready Big Hairy Legs Twinkling Uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641354)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: vibrant trust fund office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641366)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Brilliant Exciting Lodge



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Aromatic chrome antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641406)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: passionate theater stage

Is this flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641326)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: pea-brained onyx university goal in life

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: stimulating judgmental place of business lay

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: Dark house-broken azn

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: Hairraiser becky

cr, huge patent prole tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641765)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Dark house-broken azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35652523)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Vivacious lime mental disorder school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641869)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: bearded mahogany kitchen messiness

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Dark house-broken azn

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: racy halford travel guidebook

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Dark house-broken azn

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: racy halford travel guidebook

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Slap-happy theatre reading party

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: comical cobalt patrolman

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: exhilarant magenta organic girlfriend crotch

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Dark house-broken azn

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: passionate theater stage

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: comical cobalt patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641390)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: mind-boggling brunch

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Milky Irate Orchestra Pit

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641395)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: mind-boggling brunch

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Dark house-broken azn

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: mind-boggling brunch

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: Slap-happy theatre reading party

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641582)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Vivacious lime mental disorder school cafeteria

"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me away, toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641586)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: Slap-happy theatre reading party

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641601)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Vivacious lime mental disorder school cafeteria

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Slap-happy theatre reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641859)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: exhilarant magenta organic girlfriend crotch

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: Milky Irate Orchestra Pit

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641758)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Slap-happy theatre reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641861)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Slap-happy theatre reading party

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641868)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone digit ratio

*BEEP BEEP BEEP*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35641759)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: Vigorous smoky tattoo

killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35645224)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: Thriller gas station

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35645233)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: autistic translucent state death wish

transhyphenist non bigot here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35645255)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: unhinged concupiscible location

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: hateful parlor

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36038917)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: racy halford travel guidebook

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36039460)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: duck-like business firm

Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2)#36050530)