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Kicking myself at this fuckup during my job interview today

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dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
BEEP BEEP BEEP
Comical mustard degenerate
  04/22/26
Lmfao
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
Are you interviewing with girls on the Tinder app because ot...
amethyst feces death wish
  04/22/26
I'm dead serious. It doesn't make me look bad that I don't h...
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
nobody has time to construct some matrix of shit like this n...
clear deep legend fortuitous meteor
  04/22/26
Good point, thanks. Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
The last time you were applying for jobs you freaked the fuc...
Boyish Rehab
  04/22/26
Yeah. I guess my job application skills are underdeveloped s...
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
You're a very charming person with a great deal of skill and...
Boyish Rehab
  04/22/26
180 ty
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
They decided in the first 5 minutes whether they wanted you ...
fear-inspiring concupiscible theater
  04/22/26
Ty. It was a really good convo otherwise. I just feel like h...
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
Overthinkin it. It's a job interview not pickup artistry.
Boyish Rehab
  04/22/26
It's insane that this is the truth I've absolutely bombed in...
unholy internal respiration friendly grandma
  04/22/26
that's why i hate interviewing people.
Charismatic Crystalline International Law Enforcement Agency Nibblets
  04/22/26
Nice. Well, there are another 4 rounds after this one, but I...
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
Get a job at McDonald's and then you can say you have to wor...
fighting mother
  04/22/26
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clear deep legend fortuitous meteor
  04/22/26
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Canary Stain
  04/22/26
That could play well.
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
Anyone not doing this isn't trying in 2026
Boyish Rehab
  04/22/26
if it was HR, it doesn't matter. they already screened your ...
peach misanthropic station dingle berry
  04/22/26
It was the hiring manager, an engineering manager. Good c...
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
if they already want to schedule again, even if it did matte...
peach misanthropic station dingle berry
  04/22/26
Very true, thanks. Nothing I can do now but blow them away g...
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
ur good bro
peach misanthropic station dingle berry
  04/22/26
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Multi-colored Claret Rigor Legal Warrant
  04/22/26
This is good advice. Just snap back quick with Monday at 2 o...
Boyish Rehab
  04/22/26
except if you're unemployed, never schedule in the afternoon...
peach misanthropic station dingle berry
  04/22/26
I would never voluntarily do anything before noon imo
Boyish Rehab
  04/22/26
Why's that?
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
when i was unemployed i hated waiting around all day for an ...
peach misanthropic station dingle berry
  04/22/26
What if I like to stay up til 7 AM poasting and wake up at 2...
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
dont you currently have a job?
peach misanthropic station dingle berry
  04/22/26
No, my last day was two Fridays ago
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
you seem to be handling unemployment well
peach misanthropic station dingle berry
  04/22/26
Cr, I also do a lot of living IRL but that's not during busi...
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
did you say it slowly like the person you were speaking to w...
Charismatic Crystalline International Law Enforcement Agency Nibblets
  04/22/26
Not exaggeratedly slowly. I'm just worried about looking lik...
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
i'm going to be level with you. if this thread is at all in...
Charismatic Crystalline International Law Enforcement Agency Nibblets
  04/22/26
I'll take it!
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
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Multi-colored Claret Rigor Legal Warrant
  04/22/26
You should tell them you have hundreds if not thousands of o...
Boyish Rehab
  04/22/26
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dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
i would be so upset if someone told me that. why did you ma...
Charismatic Crystalline International Law Enforcement Agency Nibblets
  04/22/26
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dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
expected a FLW or JM thread. i wouldn't sweat it. aren't...
sadistic private investor philosopher-king
  04/22/26
Lol probably. I think my social skills came across fine, I w...
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
you could always ghost them or reschedule last minute to dem...
sadistic private investor philosopher-king
  04/22/26
Lmao
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
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Multi-colored Claret Rigor Legal Warrant
  04/22/26
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Boyish Rehab
  04/22/26
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Multi-colored Claret Rigor Legal Warrant
  04/22/26
lol, just say you’re available next week and can be fl...
Bistre stage knife
  04/22/26
BEEP BEEP BEEP
Bistre stage knife
  04/22/26
*beady eyes narrow* "What did ya have in mind?"
exhilarant hyperactive hospital brethren
  04/22/26
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dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
the fuckup was being enough of a faggot to even reply. and y...
mind-boggling rough-skinned hairy legs
  04/22/26
Lmao I really like it here
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
!!!
Boyish Rehab
  04/22/26
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Multi-colored Claret Rigor Legal Warrant
  04/22/26
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Bistre stage knife
  04/22/26
The HR Woman who’s screening you isn’t even tell...
histrionic bright theatre
  04/22/26
It was the hiring manager for the position (a senior Enginee...
dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
oh no now the engineers think you're an awkward weirdo with ...
Charismatic Crystalline International Law Enforcement Agency Nibblets
  04/22/26
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dull unhinged heaven
  04/22/26
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Bistre stage knife
  04/22/26
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Bistre stage knife
  04/22/26
Okay, I lol’d
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Boyish Rehab
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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835804)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:41 PM
Author: Comical mustard degenerate

BEEP BEEP BEEP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835949)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:43 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

Lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835961)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: amethyst feces death wish

Are you interviewing with girls on the Tinder app because otherwise they dont care. Also this is a dumb flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835814)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:56 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

I'm dead serious. It doesn't make me look bad that I don't have other interviews scheduled?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835818)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:00 PM
Author: clear deep legend fortuitous meteor

nobody has time to construct some matrix of shit like this nor do they care. you are just a number

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835827)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:06 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

Good point, thanks. Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835847)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:33 PM
Author: Boyish Rehab

The last time you were applying for jobs you freaked the fuck out over every little thing and acted like the world was ending. Then you landed on your feet and got a huge raise. If history is any teacher you will be just fine. Just calm your nerves. You are going to get a great job. Keep moving forward and you will be OK. Take a deep breath.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835910)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:37 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

Yeah. I guess my job application skills are underdeveloped since I'm a tenuremo and this is only my third time applying for jobs. And as you know, I got the first job I applied for right out of college. So I probably have the same amount of aggregate job application experience as a lot of 22yos. And I might be acting like one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835936)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:38 PM
Author: Boyish Rehab

You're a very charming person with a great deal of skill and experience. Don't sell yourself short. Mind over matter don't sweat the little things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835940)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:41 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

180 ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835951)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: fear-inspiring concupiscible theater

They decided in the first 5 minutes whether they wanted you or not, the rest doesn't matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835819)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

Ty. It was a really good convo otherwise. I just feel like having an open schedule sent the signal that I'm Weak as a candidate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835823)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:33 PM
Author: Boyish Rehab

Overthinkin it. It's a job interview not pickup artistry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835913)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:16 PM
Author: unholy internal respiration friendly grandma

It's insane that this is the truth I've absolutely bombed interviews to the point of palatable embarrassment and have still gotten the offer multiple times

It's a phenotype check and everything else is pure theatrics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835867)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:17 PM
Author: Charismatic Crystalline International Law Enforcement Agency Nibblets

that's why i hate interviewing people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835870)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:21 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

Nice. Well, there are another 4 rounds after this one, but I can definitely believe that this was a screening for "are they a real person, telling the truth about their experience, easy to talk to, and not hideously ugly"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835883)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: fighting mother

Get a job at McDonald's and then you can say you have to work around your work schedule at McDonald's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835820)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: clear deep legend fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835821)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: Canary Stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835824)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

That could play well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835826)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:35 PM
Author: Boyish Rehab

Anyone not doing this isn't trying in 2026

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835920)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: peach misanthropic station dingle berry

if it was HR, it doesn't matter. they already screened your phenotype and they're no longer in control.

next time just give 3 of your most convenient dates and times (Mon at 10, Tuesday at 9, etc), and add "if these don't work let me know and I can try to make something else work."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835822)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:03 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

It was the hiring manager, an engineering manager.

Good call, I'll have a top date/time list on hand for next time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835838)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:04 PM
Author: peach misanthropic station dingle berry

if they already want to schedule again, even if it did matter, which it doesn't, you can make up for it in the next interview

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835841)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:09 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

Very true, thanks. Nothing I can do now but blow them away going forward.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835851)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:10 PM
Author: peach misanthropic station dingle berry

ur good bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835855)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:22 PM
Author: Multi-colored Claret Rigor Legal Warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835887)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:36 PM
Author: Boyish Rehab

This is good advice. Just snap back quick with Monday at 2 or Tuesday at 3. Always give someone two options so it's the illusion of choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835927)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:37 PM
Author: peach misanthropic station dingle berry

except if you're unemployed, never schedule in the afternoon. if you're employed its fine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835933)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:39 PM
Author: Boyish Rehab

I would never voluntarily do anything before noon imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835941)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:44 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

Why's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835963)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: peach misanthropic station dingle berry

when i was unemployed i hated waiting around all day for an interview.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835979)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:54 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

What if I like to stay up til 7 AM poasting and wake up at 2 PM.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835990)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: peach misanthropic station dingle berry

dont you currently have a job?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835994)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:57 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

No, my last day was two Fridays ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835998)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 10:00 PM
Author: peach misanthropic station dingle berry

you seem to be handling unemployment well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49836014)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 10:17 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

Cr, I also do a lot of living IRL but that's not during business hours (other than a trip to Disneyland last week for my musician friend's bday w/ other non-9-to-5ers)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49836058)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:04 PM
Author: Charismatic Crystalline International Law Enforcement Agency Nibblets

did you say it slowly like the person you were speaking to was mentally disabled or what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835839)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:05 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

Not exaggeratedly slowly. I'm just worried about looking like a Loser for not having any other interviews scheduled, not so worried about the presentation. But this thread is reassuring me that maybe it didn't matter at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835846)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:09 PM
Author: Charismatic Crystalline International Law Enforcement Agency Nibblets

i'm going to be level with you. if this thread is at all indicative of your typical behavior, everyone you've ever encountered knows that you're a beta simp cuck low smv loser "male". hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835850)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:10 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

I'll take it!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835857)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:22 PM
Author: Multi-colored Claret Rigor Legal Warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835888)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:37 PM
Author: Boyish Rehab

You should tell them you have hundreds if not thousands of other offers. This is not legal advice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835937)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:40 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835948)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: Charismatic Crystalline International Law Enforcement Agency Nibblets

i would be so upset if someone told me that. why did you make me interrupt my phone posting to talk to you. take one of those offers idc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835973)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:58 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49836001)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:04 PM
Author: sadistic private investor philosopher-king

expected a FLW or JM thread.

i wouldn't sweat it. aren't all your competitors likely aspie as fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835842)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:08 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

Lol probably. I think my social skills came across fine, I was just worried that it might be seen as a red flag for a candidate to not have anything else scheduled with other companies. But this thread is convincing me that it doesn't matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835848)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:09 PM
Author: sadistic private investor philosopher-king

you could always ghost them or reschedule last minute to demonstrate your Job Market Value.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835854)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:11 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835858)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:22 PM
Author: Multi-colored Claret Rigor Legal Warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835889)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:40 PM
Author: Boyish Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835944)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:58 PM
Author: Multi-colored Claret Rigor Legal Warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49836000)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:34 PM
Author: Bistre stage knife

lol, just say you’re available next week and can be flexible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835914)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:34 PM
Author: Bistre stage knife

BEEP BEEP BEEP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835917)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:36 PM
Author: exhilarant hyperactive hospital brethren

*beady eyes narrow* "What did ya have in mind?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835928)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:42 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835956)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:40 PM
Author: mind-boggling rough-skinned hairy legs

the fuckup was being enough of a faggot to even reply. and you shouldnt have "kicked" yourself you should have "killed" yourself when you realized this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835947)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:42 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

Lmao I really like it here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835954)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:43 PM
Author: Boyish Rehab

!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835959)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:59 PM
Author: Multi-colored Claret Rigor Legal Warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49836006)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:58 PM
Author: Bistre stage knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49836003)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:44 PM
Author: histrionic bright theatre

The HR Woman who’s screening you isn’t even telling these details to the actual boss

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835964)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:48 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven

It was the hiring manager for the position (a senior Engineering role). But point taken; I'm now convinced I was worried about nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835975)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: Charismatic Crystalline International Law Enforcement Agency Nibblets

oh no now the engineers think you're an awkward weirdo with nothing going on. they don't have any experience dealing with that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835978)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: dull unhinged heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49835993)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:58 PM
Author: Bistre stage knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49836005)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:59 PM
Author: Bistre stage knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49836007)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:59 PM
Author: Multi-colored Claret Rigor Legal Warrant

Okay, I lol’d

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2)#49836009)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 10:00 PM
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