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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
Crusty Flirting Theater Stage Pistol
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
Misanthropic crotch
  06/15/18
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greedy galvanic marketing idea public bath
  06/15/18
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greedy galvanic marketing idea public bath
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
Brindle Sinister Hospital Psychic
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
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  10/06/21
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Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  02/12/22
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Charlie Dung from Zhejiang Province
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
Brilliant arousing travel guidebook
  06/15/18
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greedy galvanic marketing idea public bath
  06/15/18
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Razzmatazz Ruby Bawdyhouse Fanboi
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
Brilliant arousing travel guidebook
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
Walnut curious forum
  06/15/18
...
Tripping Bat Shit Crazy Corner
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
greedy galvanic marketing idea public bath
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
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  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
Pearly Maniacal Therapy Whorehouse
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
Twisted Sooty Degenerate Jew
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
Brindle Sinister Hospital Psychic
  06/15/18
sounds 180
Brilliant arousing travel guidebook
  06/15/18
...
Tripping Bat Shit Crazy Corner
  06/15/18
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Razzmatazz Ruby Bawdyhouse Fanboi
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
exhilarant people who are hurt
  06/15/18
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greedy galvanic marketing idea public bath
  06/15/18
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Misanthropic crotch
  06/15/18
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Razzmatazz Ruby Bawdyhouse Fanboi
  06/15/18
https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1
Razzmatazz Ruby Bawdyhouse Fanboi
  06/15/18
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Twisted Sooty Degenerate Jew
  06/15/18
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fuchsia exciting sandwich stain
  06/15/18
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Razzmatazz Ruby Bawdyhouse Fanboi
  02/15/21
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fuchsia exciting sandwich stain
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  10/06/21
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Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  01/18/25
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
Spectacular Startled Candlestick Maker Parlour
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
Learning disabled sable shrine
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
Learning disabled sable shrine
  06/15/18
Explain
Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  06/15/18
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Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  06/16/18
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Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  09/04/18
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fuchsia exciting sandwich stain
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
mahogany aphrodisiac legend
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
Scarlet sanctuary selfie
  06/15/18
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Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  02/12/21
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Buff trailer park
  02/12/21
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Razzmatazz Ruby Bawdyhouse Fanboi
  02/15/21
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Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
bespoke well-lubricated friendly grandma theater
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
nudist deer antler office
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
Idiotic Stage Generalized Bond
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
Idiotic Stage Generalized Bond
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
Lilac glittery area
  02/12/21
...
Buff trailer park
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
bespoke well-lubricated friendly grandma theater
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Lilac glittery area
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
Racy goyim
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
Lilac glittery area
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
Racy goyim
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
nudist deer antler office
  02/12/21
lol no
Navy background story
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
Carnelian Sick Foreskin Mexican
  02/15/21
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Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  06/29/21
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Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  10/06/21
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chartreuse theatre
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
pink wonderful institution
  10/06/21
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Pearl cerebral boiling water locus
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Crusty Flirting Theater Stage Pistol

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Misanthropic crotch

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: greedy galvanic marketing idea public bath



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: greedy galvanic marketing idea public bath



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Brindle Sinister Hospital Psychic

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: Abnormal primrose tanning salon gunner

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: Charlie Dung from Zhejiang Province ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Brilliant arousing travel guidebook

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: greedy galvanic marketing idea public bath



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Ruby Bawdyhouse Fanboi



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Brilliant arousing travel guidebook

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Walnut curious forum

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Tripping Bat Shit Crazy Corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253024)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: greedy galvanic marketing idea public bath

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: sickened indecent bbw university

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: Pearly Maniacal Therapy Whorehouse

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Twisted Sooty Degenerate Jew

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Brindle Sinister Hospital Psychic

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Brilliant arousing travel guidebook

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Tripping Bat Shit Crazy Corner



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Ruby Bawdyhouse Fanboi



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: exhilarant people who are hurt

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: greedy galvanic marketing idea public bath



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Misanthropic crotch



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Ruby Bawdyhouse Fanboi



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Ruby Bawdyhouse Fanboi

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253692)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Twisted Sooty Degenerate Jew



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: fuchsia exciting sandwich stain



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Ruby Bawdyhouse Fanboi



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: fuchsia exciting sandwich stain



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Spectacular Startled Candlestick Maker Parlour

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Learning disabled sable shrine

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus

Eat my dick nigger lover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253786)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Learning disabled sable shrine

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: fuchsia exciting sandwich stain



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: mahogany aphrodisiac legend

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: Scarlet sanctuary selfie

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: Buff trailer park



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Ruby Bawdyhouse Fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41949789)



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: bespoke well-lubricated friendly grandma theater

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: nudist deer antler office

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: Idiotic Stage Generalized Bond

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: Idiotic Stage Generalized Bond

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Lilac glittery area

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: Buff trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41933950)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: bespoke well-lubricated friendly grandma theater

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Lilac glittery area

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: Racy goyim

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Lilac glittery area

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: Racy goyim

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: nudist deer antler office

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: Navy background story

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: Carnelian Sick Foreskin Mexican

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: chartreuse theatre



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: pink wonderful institution

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2)#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: Pearl cerebral boiling water locus



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