Lawfirmmos are used to being bossed around and treated like trash by their clients. And they normally happily bend over and take it.

But when the "client" bossing them around is another lawyer, often one who makes much less money and/or is less prestigious, it bothers the law firmmo to have to bend over and get fucked in the ass with a smile.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140221)

fyi in-housemos don't hate firmmos. it's hard to do that when we were all just like you in the past.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140334)

cc’ing relationship partner for visibility.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140382)

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481079&mc=158&forum_id=2

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5256874&mc=199&forum_id=2

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654002&mc=34&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140541)

https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992715&mc=479&forum_id=2

before the hampster dies you should chronicle THE DEFINITIVE top 100 threads oh bort historian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140571)

o what a leap!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140376)

my good friend and life partner zurich is itt and a firmmo partner and he'll tell you ive advised him to stay at his firm rather than jump in-house. my bff is a biglol partner. i certainly don't feel i made an objectively superior decision. chill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140506)

"Bro, you were never like us. That's the difference. It just took a few years to sort it out. Now please continue to project your angst through more adderall screeds."

guess i was way out of line to give a flippant and dismissive response rather than engage in good faith.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140426)

it's just a lifestyle choice. the work is essentially the same. why can't i just say "id rather have less hours and stress than more money" and you say "id rather work more and earn more" and leave it at that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140412)

Every once in a while you'll see an in-house lawyer go to a firm but it is a once in a blue moon event. 99% of in-house lawyers are thrilled that they're in-house and not biglaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140599)

But I'm giving you the opportunity to sell me on what I should feel bad about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140743)

biglaw continues to struggle retaining talent. my biglol bros always bitch about zoomer work ethic and how we had no leverage coming up post ite. any inhousemo at a f500 could go back to biglol, the same cannot be said for all biglolyers. why wouldn't we just go back to biglol if we were secretly seething with envy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140766)

If you need a reminder on what this thread is about, the title is toward the top of the page.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140776)

"im happy and all my colleagues are."

"cope more burnout"

you've made up your mind inhousemos are seething because your ego is tied to your job, and people who could have it but don't want it devalues it and makes you emptional. so you dismiss people claiming they're happy (u mad!) and nonpersonal arguments (tldr!).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140794)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140831)

him and his ugly ass wife have $800k HHI and live in a swamp, while they refuse to raise their own kid and he orders goislop delivery food 5-6 days a week cuz she’s too busy to cook too

to them this sad middle class lifestyle is big success

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49141047)

In-house lawyers: "We're actually happy and see a ton of law firm lawyers trying to get jobs doing what we do and generally have no desire to return to firms."

Firm lawyers: "OMG QED QED QED!!!!!1"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140853)

lmao, ok bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140835)

you've given up even trying to engage in good faith. and lol at launching adhoms about retarded scuffling on xo and what that says about in-house work generally.

ultimately this thread is about attitudes inhouse and if you're primed to reject multiple poasters saying "im happy and my colleagues are" what else can i say? i can't put you inside my head to prove its how i feel so we're at an impasse.

it's 4pm and i just got home. scuffling on xo was 90% of my workday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140905)

I think it is the biglaw culture. Everything at firms is some dick measuring contest. "I billed X hours! I'm a ROCKSTAR!" People who act like that in-house get told to curb their enthusiasm and if they don't they get sent packing. Ultimately, biglaw people are just miserable people trying to act cheerful. Ergo, thread like this. And to my earlier point about preferring people already in-house? Yes, this cultural disparity is one reason for that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140780)

tbf i get it. most of us came in as true believers and accepting that all the time and energy was only ever about inflating a time sheet is tough to swallow. especially if you're locked in golden handcuffs. firms purposefully stoke competitiveness and the value of their work to incentivize them to continue billing. its a cult like mentality, which is why they react so strongly when the cult dogma is threatened.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140857)

“more porridge, sir?”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49141025)

i gather that you're motivated by some feud with tmf but you managed to make the dumbest possible arguments. sometimes it really does seem like you're being retarded on purpose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49141069)

sick people, as is anyone else doing the same thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49141076)

i guess someone out the loop would think it was bizarre if i showed called a pumo spaceporn and referencing his shit, so i suppose this is in line with xo culture. carry on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49141088)

you still latching onto titles is so fucking sad. I guess you mongrels were made for the rat race

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49142841)

YOU ARE FUCKING ASSOCIATE GENERAL COUNSEL

JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP TMF AND ASK ME HOW I KNOW YOU DONT MAKE 450k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49141724)

Edit: do you even know how comp for director levels at my company works?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49141791)

As for my wife, that's not even a high salary for her position.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49142575)

Mandy is a direct report to the CLO. The company is smaller but not sure why you think that salary is remarkable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49142591)

Lol at a "direct report" to the CLO of her shitbank with 100 employees.

Remarkable? When did I ever say it is remarkable? You and Mandy have been in law for 20 years and you have never once scratched at what I made as a midlevel associate years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49142596)

Yeah, it has 100 employees. Totally.

Is this based on the alternative universe where we make $115k or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49142602)

You could not last more than 11 months in biglaw. Your only dream in this world was to work biglaw. You fantasized about it. We all remember. And you got canned after 11 fucking months, never to return. Back to biglaw? No. Back to school, literally more school, only to get "JD advantage" roles.

So you have concocted this laughable story about how all along what you really wanted to do was to work in midlevel legal compliance at a F1000 company. Screens, teams meetings, 'deliverables' all day.

Congrats on making less at the age of 45 than I made as a midlevel associate. too bad you couldn't have gotten it up front and invested in the S&P 500 years ago like I did. You wouldn't have to worry about paid vacation like you do now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49142620)

Suppose someone posted "Why do PE principals have such giant chips on their shoulders", and that's all. If a bunch PE guys ran in to talk about how being a PE guy is actually better than being a Biglaw lawyer, that would be really weird, right? And the reason it would be weird isn't because they'd be wrong -- being a big shot PE dude is actually better! But it would still be really weird.

Think about that, in house bros.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140881)

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755930&mc=44&forum_id=2

2) we're on fucking xoxo. this is in line with your point too, but a thread about in house lawyers on a fucking lawyer forum implicitly is about others LAWYER options. he might as well said "hmmm but what about compared to professional poker players, no one said biglaw!"

this is exactly the type of biglol "GOTCHAS!" invested in being right. i can envision op loling about how a lazy in-housemo improperly italicized a comma in a routine discovery motion and patting himself on the back for his attention to detail.

"heh, this is why the bring in the big guns", senior assoc at 1:12am

"great work on this but this matter settled yesterday at cob", -sent from iPhone at 11:12am.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49140939)

you couldn’t do a better job of proving op’s point if you were shtick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49141080)

"I didn't kill nobody!"

"Didn't say nothing about killing..."

"OK, now you're nitpicking."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49141180)

[Marshall Gerard corners fugitive Doctor Kimble]

Kimble: "I didn't kill my wife!"

Gerard: "Who said anything anout killing your wife?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49141207)

you created this thread and engaged in biglaw v. inhouse the entire time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49141256)

If you're not running chip-on-shoulder in house lawyer shtick (and you very much appear to be), my best guess is that the giant chip on your shoulder is coloring your perception of this thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49141332)

Biglawyers laughing at in house for getting paid less to have more free time and more of a life is strange. The whole you could never be us shtick. It's just a personal choice. Some people choose to live under a bridge. Inhousemos make way more than the average American. And they enjoy a better quality of life. If you are determined to make as much money as possible and work a lot more, that's a choice too. It's a free country. But I have no idea why you would think that makes you so much better than somebody who does the same job for less and has a radically improved work-life balance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2)#49153012)