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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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thriller jade dilemma
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Avocado big nursing home
  12/16/25
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thriller jade dilemma
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
mind-boggling bronze masturbator
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Avocado big nursing home
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
mind-boggling bronze masturbator
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Avocado big nursing home
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
mind-boggling bronze masturbator
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
thriller jade dilemma
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Avocado big nursing home
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
mind-boggling bronze masturbator
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Avocado big nursing home
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
mind-boggling bronze masturbator
  12/17/25
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thriller jade dilemma
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Avocado big nursing home
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Charismatic cream resort
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Avocado big nursing home
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Charismatic cream resort
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
180 sadistic pozpig
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Avocado big nursing home
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
black crusty plaza
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Avocado big nursing home
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Crystalline piazza generalized bond
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Avocado big nursing home
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thriller jade dilemma
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
beady-eyed newt
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
jet community account
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Avocado big nursing home
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beady-eyed newt
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thriller jade dilemma
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thriller jade dilemma
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
mind-boggling bronze masturbator
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Adventurous heaven internal respiration
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: thriller jade dilemma



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Avocado big nursing home

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: thriller jade dilemma

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: mind-boggling bronze masturbator

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Avocado big nursing home

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: mind-boggling bronze masturbator

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Avocado big nursing home

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: mind-boggling bronze masturbator

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: thriller jade dilemma

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Avocado big nursing home

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: mind-boggling bronze masturbator

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Avocado big nursing home

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: mind-boggling bronze masturbator

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: thriller jade dilemma



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Avocado big nursing home



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Charismatic cream resort

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Avocado big nursing home

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Charismatic cream resort



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: 180 sadistic pozpig

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Avocado big nursing home

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: black crusty plaza

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Avocado big nursing home

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Crystalline piazza generalized bond

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Avocado big nursing home



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: thriller jade dilemma



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: beady-eyed newt

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: jet community account

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Avocado big nursing home



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: beady-eyed newt



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: thriller jade dilemma



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: thriller jade dilemma



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: mind-boggling bronze masturbator

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Adventurous heaven internal respiration

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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