The Billing Fraud in Biglaw is really absurd
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Date: February 8th, 2013 2:11 PM Author: Soggy Garnet Toilet Seat
It is crazy that you pay $600 an hour for someone with 5 years of experience, and they still screw you by only working 40 minutes out of every hour they bill, sometimes less.
I have seen some absurd bills in my time...especially from partners who I know for a fact didn't do anything and weren't involved in a mater on a day they didn't bill time.
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Date: February 8th, 2013 2:15 PM Author: Thriller magical meetinghouse nibblets
To be fair,
Mass fraud and overcharging relative to value provided is nowhere near limited to biglaw. Just do the entire medical system in our country.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2179152&forum_id=2)#22595834) |
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Date: February 8th, 2013 2:53 PM Author: slap-happy lavender ratface
To be fair,
Gee I wonder if that's because you usually don't even think about hiring biglaw to handle your case unless it's an uphill battle to begin with?
The fact that Biglawyers are as successful as they are (i.e., don't lose on the vast majority of motions they are hired to handle) actually shows just how important good research and briefing is. The easier you make it for the court, the better your odds of coming out on top. I wonder if that could be because most judges, like most human beings, are inherently kind of lazy? Tough question.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2179152&forum_id=2)#22596088) |
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Date: February 8th, 2013 2:58 PM Author: cerebral bisexual preventive strike
f500 companies hire biglaw for both winner and loser cases, moron.
and federal clerks are gunners, dumbass.
clearly you've never practiced law.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2179152&forum_id=2)#22596117) |
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Date: February 8th, 2013 3:00 PM Author: slap-happy lavender ratface
To be fair,
LJL yeah bro you got me, I was flaming quality of briefing totally doesn't matter because "federal clerks are gunners" and anyone who thinks differently has clearly never practiced law
*blank stare*
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Date: February 8th, 2013 9:50 PM Author: cyan swashbuckling scourge upon the earth
Mr. Gurion is correct; the federal judiciary (and competent state judges, which tbf, might be a third of them, generously) are committed to figuring that shit out. Even if a pro se submits a shittastic mess, they will make some effort to figure out what's going on and be "right". Everyone cares about being reversed and decent judges care about being correct, always.
Signaling matters some, but a clerk or a judge who reads briefs, ever, recognizes a good one immediately.
The research and writing only needs to be somewhat good enough ... there's a minimum bar that needs to be met, it's definitely above most of what is submitted, but there isn't significant added value for "excellent" briefing.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2179152&forum_id=2)#22598832)
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Date: November 1st, 2018 11:37 AM Author: comical pearly milk spot
It's not as bad as some people claim. A lot of people chronically underbill b/c they do all their hours at once and forgot about all the time spent reading emails and talking to clients on the phone, spontaneous discussions about the matter with partners, etc.
There are days where I go in at 8am, leave at 3am, ate at my desk and somehow could only account for 10 hours of my time for that day a week later. Lol.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2179152&forum_id=2)#37138386) |
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