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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Comical autistic range gaming laptop
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just walk outside bro
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Shimmering fat ankles hominid
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Shimmering fat ankles hominid
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Comical autistic range gaming laptop

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: stirring field

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: stirring field

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: stirring field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: stirring field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: stirring field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: stirring field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: stirring field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49128622)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: crawly violet headpube base

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Shimmering fat ankles hominid

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: crawly violet headpube base

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Shimmering fat ankles hominid

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: crawly violet headpube base

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Hissy Fit Degenerate

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Laughsome alcoholic idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Supple Garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Deep brass national security agency

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: elite narrow-minded black woman

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: big-titted whorehouse

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Hissy Fit Degenerate

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Duck-like house sneaky criminal

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: balding plaza

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Razzle chad school

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2)#49105022)