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Presbyterianism vs Orthodoxy vs Catholicism

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Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich
  03/27/23
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Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich
  03/27/23
Cr actually
milky resort
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Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich
  03/28/23
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Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich
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Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich
  04/06/23
diy start ur own
Mind-boggling Therapy
  04/06/23
The conservative strain of Presbyterianism that still adhere...
milky resort
  04/06/23
It seems to be the only form of protestantism worth mentioni...
Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich
  04/06/23
Orthodoxy: +The most conservative theologically of the thre...
sepia talking sex offender
  04/06/23
you allude to it, but the fact that the orthodox churches fa...
Mischievous bat shit crazy personal credit line
  04/06/23
Good analysis. My family joined the Orthodox Church of Antio...
Spruce lay
  04/06/23
Early Christian’s didn’t kiss paintings and do o...
milky resort
  04/06/23
Kisses painting *Oh no! Orthodox is pointy elbow Christia...
Deranged Bawdyhouse
  04/06/23
Catholicism is garbage too
milky resort
  04/06/23
(Guy with his own Sola Scriptura church) God is whatever ...
Deranged Bawdyhouse
  04/06/23
"Sola Scriptura" and "Solo Scriptura" ar...
milky resort
  04/06/23
Yogurt's new pronouns: Sol(a) Scriptura Here's a short...
Deranged Bawdyhouse
  04/06/23
It’s the opposite. Sola Scriptura ensures all a church...
milky resort
  04/06/23
*Cut continuity with tradition and a living church* *Use ...
Deranged Bawdyhouse
  04/07/23
what are your thoughts on presbyterianism, or any other rele...
Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich
  04/06/23
I think Reformed theology is the most intellectually rigouro...
sepia talking sex offender
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shivering dashing house
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shivering dashing house
  01/24/24
great thread
Big Black Woman
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Flesh trump supporter senate
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mentally impaired really tough guy
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I was closer to the devil than I was to Christ until I left ...
cobalt vibrant gas station
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Lutheranism is basically catholicism without all the bullshi...
mentally impaired really tough guy
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Gay irradiated area
  01/24/24
Reformed theology in the Presbyterian tradition is rooted in...
milky resort
  04/06/23
Protestantism is heretical and a fast track to hell HTH
Deranged Bawdyhouse
  04/06/23
Yes I better start kissing paintings and praying to dead peo...
milky resort
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Awkward Mental Disorder Plaza
  04/06/23
Looking forward to tomorrow's Veneration of the Cross
ruddy rehab coldplay fan
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Date: March 27th, 2023 12:37 PM
Author: Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46103134)



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Date: March 27th, 2023 7:33 PM
Author: Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46105519)



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Date: March 27th, 2023 7:34 PM
Author: milky resort

Cr actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46105524)



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Date: March 28th, 2023 10:34 PM
Author: Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46111264)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 12:14 AM
Author: Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46150623)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 1:12 AM
Author: Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46150745)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 1:13 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Therapy

diy start ur own

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46150746)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 1:33 AM
Author: milky resort

The conservative strain of Presbyterianism that still adheres to Reformed theology is probably the most credited form of Christianity on earth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46150774)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 7:05 AM
Author: Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich

It seems to be the only form of protestantism worth mentioning but I was hoping some scholars could comment on the merits and demerits of all three

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46150985)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 9:21 AM
Author: sepia talking sex offender

Orthodoxy:

+The most conservative theologically of the three. Pretty strictly apophatic.

+Parishes also generally conservative

-Energy-essence

-Local doctrines are very weak, especially telonia "Toll Houses"

-Theology not very systematized, so groups will break off communion for something less significant than dogma

+/-Church often tied to local culture and custom

Catholicism:

+Largest intellectual tradition, multiple theological methods

+Despite recent squabbling over liturgy, Latin Rite still rather uniform

-Modern dogmatic proclamations (Immaculate Conception 1854, Papal Infallibility 1870, Assumption 1950) are somewhat "bold" theologically

-Many liberal parishes

+/-Pope has universal jurisdiction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151251)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 10:43 AM
Author: Mischievous bat shit crazy personal credit line

you allude to it, but the fact that the orthodox churches fall into schism with each other so often and for so long, frequently over political matters does it in for me. you end up with politicized churches sometimes being de facto part of the state (Russia).

but otherwise pretty credited post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151511)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 11:04 AM
Author: Spruce lay

Good analysis. My family joined the Orthodox Church of Antioch precisely for these reasons you point out (churches absorbing nationalist culture and constantly in schism with each other). It has been such a blessing and our hearts are full with the knowledge that our church is so close to that envisioned by those for whom the living Christ was more than just a distant memory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151610)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 11:06 AM
Author: milky resort

Early Christian’s didn’t kiss paintings and do other retarded pagan shit hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151617)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 11:08 AM
Author: Deranged Bawdyhouse

Kisses painting

*Oh no! Orthodox is pointy elbow Christianity!

Globohomo Pope kisses black guy's foot, commits multiple heresies

*Claps enthusiastically

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151637)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 11:10 AM
Author: milky resort

Catholicism is garbage too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151650)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 11:39 AM
Author: Deranged Bawdyhouse

(Guy with his own Sola Scriptura church)

God is whatever you say it is right bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151808)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 11:41 AM
Author: milky resort

"Sola Scriptura" and "Solo Scriptura" are terms often used in discussions about religious authority, specifically within the context of the Christian faith. While they may sound similar, these terms represent two different approaches to Scripture's role in guiding Christian life and practice.

Sola Scriptura: This term, which means "by Scripture alone" in Latin, is one of the key principles that emerged during the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century. Sola Scriptura asserts that the Bible is the ultimate and sufficient authority for Christian faith and practice. It is held in contrast to the Catholic Church's position, which considers both Scripture and Church tradition as equally authoritative. Proponents of Sola Scriptura believe that all doctrines, practices, and teachings should be derived from and be in agreement with the Bible.

Solo Scriptura: This term, meaning "Scripture only," is a more recent development and is not a historical or traditional Protestant position. Solo Scriptura takes the principle of Sola Scriptura to an extreme, often rejecting any role for tradition, historical interpretations, or the guidance of the Church in understanding the Bible. Advocates of Solo Scriptura typically hold a highly individualistic approach to Scripture, maintaining that every believer should read and interpret the Bible without any reliance on external sources, traditions, or authorities.

The key difference between the two concepts lies in their approach to Christian tradition, church history, and the role of the wider Christian community in interpreting Scripture. While Sola Scriptura affirms the primacy of Scripture as the ultimate authority, it still recognizes the value of Christian tradition, historical teachings, and communal discernment in understanding and applying the Bible. On the other hand, Solo Scriptura disregards any external sources or guidance, emphasizing the individual's ability to interpret the Bible without any reference to tradition, community, or historical context.

In summary, Sola Scriptura is a principle that upholds the Bible as the supreme authority for Christian faith and practice, while still valuing the role of tradition and community in interpretation. Solo Scriptura, on the other hand, is a more extreme and individualistic approach that rejects any influence of tradition, history, or the wider Christian community in understanding Scripture.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151826)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 4:23 PM
Author: Deranged Bawdyhouse

Yogurt's new pronouns:

Sol(a) Scriptura

Here's a shortcut: it's all bullshit. Sola Scriptura can justify nonsense like Unitarianism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46153285)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 5:32 PM
Author: milky resort

It’s the opposite. Sola Scriptura ensures all a church’s doctrine is traceable to the scripture. A Unitarian church isn’t sola scriptura anymore than a Catholic Church is. They both follow their own extra biblical traditions. E.g., gay stuff with Unitarianism and Marianism with Catholicism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46153544)



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Date: April 7th, 2023 12:02 AM
Author: Deranged Bawdyhouse

*Cut continuity with tradition and a living church*

*Use 1L-level legal exegesis on scripture to justify whatever you want

*Create new church

PROFIT



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46155192)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 12:03 PM
Author: Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich

what are your thoughts on presbyterianism, or any other relevant strands of protestantism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151971)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 12:50 PM
Author: sepia talking sex offender

I think Reformed theology is the most intellectually rigourous strain of Protestantism, if only because it has to uproot and redefine major elements of Christian doctrine and defend them, while the most conservative strains of Lutheranism differ from the most "Augustinian" elements of Catholicism only in a negative sense via stripping elements of the Faith.

But I haven't read Institutes or much Luther, so not a mommyblogger PhD here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46152282)



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Date: January 24th, 2024 1:04 AM
Author: shivering dashing house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#47323847)



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Date: January 24th, 2024 1:04 AM
Author: shivering dashing house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#47323842)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 8:52 AM
Author: Big Black Woman

great thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151138)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 8:52 AM
Author: Flesh trump supporter senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151141)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 9:10 AM
Author: mentally impaired really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151200)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 10:54 AM
Author: cobalt vibrant gas station

I was closer to the devil than I was to Christ until I left catholicism and became orthodox

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151564)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 11:08 AM
Author: mentally impaired really tough guy

Lutheranism is basically catholicism without all the bullshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151638)



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Date: January 24th, 2024 1:00 AM
Author: Gay irradiated area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#47323833)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 11:11 AM
Author: milky resort

Reformed theology in the Presbyterian tradition is rooted in the Protestant Reformation of the 16th century, particularly the teachings of John Calvin, a French theologian and pastor. This theological tradition emphasizes the sovereignty of God, the authority of Scripture, and the centrality of grace in salvation. Below is a summary of some key tenets of Reformed theology in the Presbyterian tradition:

Sovereignty of God: Reformed theology affirms the absolute sovereignty of God over all aspects of creation and history. God is considered the supreme authority, governing everything according to His will and plan. This belief extends to the understanding of salvation, which is seen as entirely dependent on God's grace and initiative.

Authority of Scripture: Presbyterians hold that the Bible, both the Old and New Testaments, is the inspired Word of God and the ultimate authority for faith and practice. They believe that Scripture is the primary means by which God communicates with humanity and reveals His will.

Salvation by grace through faith: Reformed theology teaches that salvation is a gift from God, given by grace alone, and received through faith in Jesus Christ. This means that human beings cannot earn salvation through their own works or merit; it is entirely dependent on God's grace and mercy.

Predestination and Election: A key aspect of Reformed theology is the belief in predestination and election. This doctrine teaches that God, in His sovereign will, has chosen certain individuals for salvation before the foundation of the world. This election is not based on any human merit or action but solely on God's grace.

The priesthood of all believers: Reformed theology affirms the priesthood of all believers, which means that all Christians have direct access to God through Jesus Christ and share in the responsibility of ministry and service in the church and the world.

Covenant theology: Presbyterians view God's relationship with humanity in terms of covenants. They believe that God established a covenant of grace through Jesus Christ, which is expressed in the Old Testament through the covenant with Abraham and the Mosaic covenant, and in the New Testament through the new covenant in Christ.

Sacraments: The Presbyterian tradition recognizes two sacraments – baptism and the Lord's Supper (also known as communion). These sacraments are considered visible signs and seals of God's grace and are means by which believers participate in the covenant community.

Church government: Presbyterians have a distinct form of church governance known as "presbyterian polity." This system is characterized by a representative structure, with church members electing elders (also known as presbyters) to lead and govern the local congregation and regional bodies (presbyteries, synods, and general assemblies).

In summary, Reformed theology in the Presbyterian tradition emphasizes the sovereignty of God, the authority of Scripture, and the centrality of grace in salvation. It also upholds distinctive beliefs such as predestination, covenant theology, the priesthood of all believers, and a particular form of church governance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151654)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 11:40 AM
Author: Deranged Bawdyhouse

Protestantism is heretical and a fast track to hell

HTH



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151814)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 11:42 AM
Author: milky resort

Yes I better start kissing paintings and praying to dead people pronto huh retard 👍

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46151836)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 5:08 PM
Author: Awkward Mental Disorder Plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46153447)



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Date: April 6th, 2023 5:10 PM
Author: ruddy rehab coldplay fan

Looking forward to tomorrow's Veneration of the Cross

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#46153457)



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Date: November 10th, 2023 1:19 AM
Author: Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#47040123)



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Date: January 23rd, 2024 10:14 PM
Author: Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#47323445)



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Date: December 13th, 2024 3:44 PM
Author: Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#48445704)



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Date: February 18th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: Talented Up-to-no-good Sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#48672334)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: bill of goods



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5313590&forum_id=2)#49334808)