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T14 Hot Girls Contest: Remove girls who object?
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 2:56 PM Author: high-end crackhouse Don't know if anybody caught this, but it seems to be under consideration now: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=584281&mc=127&forum_id=2#7649996
On the one hand, I thought MC's request yesterday was fairly reasonable (and given that it was a simple one-line email, don't really understand the accusations that she was trolling for attention).
On the other hand, I suspect this would make the contest a lot less interesting. And Xoxo is not really in the habit of shutting up whenever anybody takes issue with us.
EDIT: Just to be clear, I personally have no control over what goes on the site or what doesn't. This is just an opinion thread.
EDIT2: Might want to compare with http://www.abovethelaw.com/2007/02/tier_3_law_students_are_hotter_2.php |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:04 PM Author: contagious pit giraffe Yeah, I think they should take the pics of people who object down. Actually, I think they should probably take the whole thing down. It's amusing, but it invades the privacy of others. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650123) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:06 PM Author: cordovan vivacious cruise ship marketing idea How is it an "invasion of privacy" when the pics were posted on places like myspace and facebook that are accessible to literally millions of people? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650140) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:13 PM Author: Beta juggernaut facebook pictures that are limited to friends should not be posted. They aren't really 'publicly available' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650183) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:16 PM Author: Swashbuckling address french chef no you can set the privacy setting to block nonfriends from looking at your photos (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650204) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:18 PM Author: Sexy mental disorder not if they're untagged and someone else posts a picture of you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650215) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:19 PM Author: Beta juggernaut Exactly. those pictures should not be posted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650223) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:19 PM Author: Swashbuckling address french chef oh ok, i concur then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650228) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:20 PM Author: nofapping motley stage I think that's what he meant. Some people are submitting the private photos of their facebook friends. That's not cool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650233) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:23 PM Author: passionate dead rigor It's not the contest admins fault that the girls that object have shitty friends. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650255) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:24 PM Author: Swashbuckling address french chef no but if they object then take the pics down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650261) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:25 PM Author: ebony mediation so a way to avoid this problem would be to find out if the girl is okay with it ahead of time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650264) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:26 PM Author: Swashbuckling address french chef just take a minute to think of how a poster would ask a chick that, marina.
post the pics, if the chick has a problem then take it down |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:26 PM Author: passionate dead rigor Right. Their "friends" that sent the pics in from their private profile's should have asked them for permission. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650274) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 10:10 PM Author: contagious pit giraffe "How is it an 'invasion of privacy' when the pics were posted on places like myspace and facebook that are accessible to literally millions of people?"
I guess it depends. The clearest case for being an invasion of privacy would be posting pictures that someone has not placed on the internet or has placed on sites for which access is restricted to friends (which you can do with friendster). One might argue that it's not an invasion of privacy to post pics that others post for everyone on friendter to see, but I'm not entirely convinced by this argument. Posting a pic on friendster isn't normally an invitation to use the picture in an "am I hot or not" type contest. You can really hurt people's feelings by putting them in contests like that. Also, some of those contests end up leaving a permanent mark on the internet, so that if you search for a person's name, you might come up with this t14 site.
If the girls had consented to being part of the contest, then I don't think anyone can really object. But as far as I can tell, few if any have done so.
Bear in mind that when I discuss "invasion of privacy," I'm talking about social norms rather than legal ones. Sure, it's not illegal to post these pics (though it's arguably technically copyright infringement). But it's not a very nice thing to do. The users of the site presumably know that---otherwise they wouldn't be doing it anonymously.
And the argument that "Lat did it so it's not that bad" isn't even worth responding to. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 10:12 PM Author: spectacular amber haunted graveyard no one 'consented' to anything. CH from Yale thinks its cool though, and I have heard from ppl at UVA that CPY thinks its flattering while AS doesnt mind and is surprised. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7652579) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 11:12 PM Author: contagious pit giraffe Well it doesn't bother me then, at least with respect to them. And if the others consent or at least shrug it off, it doesn't bother me with respect to them either. I just think all the girls pictured should have some sort of right to remove themselves from the contest. Presumably, this will kind of work itself out, since someone from each law school will probably tell the girls about the site and the ones who are offended can get their pics taken down. That assumes, of course, that the guys are willing to take them down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7653059) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:06 PM Author: lime abode this argument is so absurd. every day in real life people talk about other people's appearance. you don't have a right to privacy regarding your appearance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650142) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 10:14 PM Author: zombie-like principal's office they published these pictures of themselves on the internet and then they complain it's a violation of privacy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7652598) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:06 PM Author: ebony mediation i think that they should get permission first if the girl doesn't nominate herself. and take down the pictures of girls who don't want to participate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650136) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:07 PM Author: hairless boistinker headpube Unfuckingbelievable. Once again, it was an unforgivable error putting that shithead behind the wheel of this thing. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 8:21 PM Author: spectacular amber haunted graveyard first off, it was my idea... i created the site, started it, etc.
i am NOT going to remove any photos. i wanted that UVA douche to admit who she was friends with. She said she's friends with MC and AW. so now, we know which girls are complaining about this. and we also can assume the other UVA girls are OK with this and are troopers. why do people assume i was being honest when i offered to take the pics down?
this thread was retarded. you bought into the set-up that i was laying for the UVA troll. i expect more from you. |
Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:06 PM Author: exhilarant sinister alpha If the pics were on the Interwebs, I see no problem with keeping them up. If however, they came via email or other sources I say take them down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650137) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:08 PM Author: lime abode there are only two reasons i can see to take pics down:
1) objectifies women. i call bullshit. 2) leads to cruel xoxo posts. seems like a constant problem. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:11 PM Author: high-end crackhouse The cruel posts really annoy me not so much because they are mean, but because they are incredibly counterproductive. If people would just shut up for a few weeks or just stick with simple compliments, people would be a lot cooler with having their pics up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650172) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:12 PM Author: Swashbuckling address french chef true, i like how some xoxoers act like they pull in all these hot chicks. especially when you know if given the opportunity they would sex tubgirl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650181) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:12 PM Author: Lascivious Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650179) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:25 PM Author: passionate dead rigor Exactly. If they were really "friends" would they have sent the pics to the contest in the first place without seeking permission? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650265) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:11 PM Author: Swashbuckling address french chef tough call but if i were in the creator shoes i would. just so i wouldnt get shit from it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650175) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:12 PM Author: high-end crackhouse Also, let me just throw this out as a point of reference: http://www.abovethelaw.com/2007/02/tier_3_law_students_are_hotter_2.php (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650178) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:13 PM Author: drab cracking den gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650186) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:32 PM Author: high-end crackhouse I saw what you posted, and really, no objection from here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650308) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:13 PM Author: drab cracking den gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650182) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:14 PM Author: Abusive sick base cuckold You can't take down the people who object because then it is easy (fair or not) to infer that the people who are in the contest don't mind being in it. Well, that just makes them look like attention whores so even if they are flattered, they'll feel obligated to 'object'. This is why I said it was bad precedent on one of the first threads about this. It's all you stupid douchebags who cut on the girls' looks that fuck everything up and that includes the person running the contest. I realize this is part of xoxo, but it's a lame part, and if the girl doesn't realize it (and even if she does), she might be hurt by the insults. In my world, there is a big difference between pseudo-flattery/objectification and thoughtless, douchebag criticism. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 8:20 PM Author: spectacular amber haunted graveyard just to be clear, i am NOT going to remove any photos.
i wanted that UVA douche to admit who she was friends with. She said she's friends with MC and AW.
so now, we know who is complaining about this.
and we also can assume the other UVA girls are OK with this and are troopers.
why do people assume i was being honest when i offered to take the pics down?
this thread was retarded. you bought into the set-up that i was laying for the UVA troll.
i expect more from you guys...
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:14 PM Author: Sickened Electric Gunner By having their pictures on facebook or myspace, they're inviting ppl to look at them, but they're not volunteering to compete for the title of hottest babe of the t-14 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650195) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:18 PM Author: lime abode extending this logic, by putting out albums bands are inviting ppl to listen to them, but they're not volunteering to compete for best album of the year. there's obviously something missing from your argument, and honestly i don't know what it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650216) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:29 PM Author: Seedy ticket booth antidepressant drug There's a reasonably clear cut distinction that most people can draw between being in this contest and getting a grammy.
For one, most bands who put out albums do so with the hope and understanding that getting awards and recognition goes with the territory more. Not really analagous to why people put pictures on facebook. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:33 PM Author: curious digit ratio location I think it is slightly analagous. People put their pictures on the interwebs for attention. That is beyond dispute. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650316) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:38 PM Author: Seedy ticket booth antidepressant drug That's a bit of a strawman though, because you could argue that people do anything for "attention". The issue is who the attention is sought from. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650347) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:50 PM Author: lime abode is there a rule that it's wrong to give attention to things for which your attention wasn't sought? i can think of countless counterexamples.
i still think it has to come down to either objectification or cruelty. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 4:01 PM Author: Seedy ticket booth antidepressant drug I don't think so. It's always easy to find counterexamples if you can simplify the argument to simple, broad issues. But one of the things we also learn in law school is that while broad rules and classifications are convenient actual application is often case-specific.
In this case, I can completely understand why someone who privately posts a picture on facebook and then has some peripheral friend repost it here would not be happy about it. Clearly the board can't even demonstrate that the attention these people are getting is even significantly positive.
You'd think if it was all about attention there'd be less resistance to people getting outed around here -- yet we as regulars are usually supportive of other regulars who try to keep anonymity.
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:17 PM Author: Beta juggernaut This has probably been posted but I think myspace and facebook pictures set to 'private' so that only 'friends' are allowed to see them should not be posted. They aren't publicly available, nor should they be posted all over the internet and made so by their friends.
When you're welcomed into someone's home you see lots of stuff, doesn't mean its OK to take pictures and show others what you see. Regardless of legality. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:19 PM Author: Swashbuckling address french chef that would cool if this goes all the way to the supreme court (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650224) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:28 PM Author: Puce becky temple lol OMG the case of CGWBT v. T14 Hottest Bitches Ltd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650283) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:28 PM Author: Swashbuckling address french chef that would rawk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650286) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 3:34 PM Author: curious digit ratio location Why are people being bitches about this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7650323) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 8:15 PM Author: spectacular amber haunted graveyard just to be clear, i am NOT going to remove any photos.
i wanted that UVA douche to admit who she was friends with. She said she's friends with MC and AW.
so now, we know who is complaining about this.
and we also can assume the other UVA girls are OK with this and are troopers.
why do people assume i was being honest when i offered to take the pics down?
this thread was retarded. you bought into the set-up that i was laying for the UVA troll.
i expect more from you guys... |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 8:16 PM Author: turquoise reading party Check your email. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7651993) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 8:19 PM Author: spectacular amber haunted graveyard check yours (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7652006) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 8:59 PM Author: nofapping motley stage I believe you should remove those who object. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7652210) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 9:08 PM Author: spectacular amber haunted graveyard that's nice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7652261) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 9:00 PM Author: harsh friendly grandma http://www.m90.org/gallery/image/titties.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7652216) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 10:37 PM Author: copper shitlib the guy who is running the contest should recruit people at each school to discreetly photograph the girls in public. this should solve most if not all of the problems. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7652773) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2007 4:22 AM Author: brilliant fighting electric furnace travel guidebook lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7654516) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2007 4:28 AM Author: spectacular amber haunted graveyard Subject: creepy... ... too much coordination needed.... i'd need to find better law students... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7654520) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2007 10:39 PM Author: Sexy mental disorder You people are still going at this? Law students really are a bunch of losers... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7652795) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2007 5:02 AM Author: frisky frozen church building foreskin no, it's mostly that faggot pauliewalnuts who is a loser and an attn whore. the rest of us are just going with the flow with all his bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=584455&forum_id=2)#7654547) |