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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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ruddy stirring nursing home
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
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ruddy stirring nursing home
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The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Irate ocher mad-dog skullcap
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Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
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The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Irate ocher mad-dog skullcap
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wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
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Guns are muktzah.
Irate ocher mad-dog skullcap
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I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
ruddy stirring nursing home
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
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state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
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Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
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how do they get home?
Know-it-all Provocative Voyeur Station
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they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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Know-it-all Provocative Voyeur Station
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Exciting Office Son Of Senegal
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
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is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: ruddy stirring nursing home



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Big Casino

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: ruddy stirring nursing home

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Irate ocher mad-dog skullcap

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Big Casino

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Irate ocher mad-dog skullcap

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Big Casino

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Irate ocher mad-dog skullcap

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: ruddy stirring nursing home

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Big Casino

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Irate ocher mad-dog skullcap

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Big Casino

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Irate ocher mad-dog skullcap

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Know-it-all Provocative Voyeur Station

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Big Casino

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Exciting Office Son Of Senegal

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Big Casino

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Rose hominid

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
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ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Ceo Mental Disorder

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Irate ocher mad-dog skullcap

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal talking pistol location

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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