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Golf bros anyone like lower compression balls for chipping?
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Date: August 11th, 2025 8:51 PM Author: boyish lime degenerate I spent the last month testing out every major urethane 3-piece golf ball. For drives, putts and most full swing shots, I could barely tell any difference.
Then when I got to chipping, all of the balls I thought were best became clearly the worst for me (Titleist AVX and prov1, TP5, Z-star, Chrome Soft) even though they are supposed to have more spin?
Best balls for me BY FAR are Qstar Tour, Vice Pro Air and Bridgestone Tour B RX
They feel AMAZING on chips and the same on every other shot.
I bet a lot of guys mindlessly use higher compression titleist balls and have NO IDEA about these |
Date: August 12th, 2025 2:02 PM Author: .,.,.;.,..,.,:.,:,..,..,::,..,,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:, Precept MC Lady balls would work for you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49178541) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 2:30 PM Author: Brother Peter Dimond i bet the current version is sps. every ball after the old mc lady that tried to do the same thing sucked. some would even crack if you hit them once with a driver (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49178634) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 2:36 PM Author: .,.,.;.,..,.,:.,:,..,..,::,..,,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:, it was almost definitely purely psychological, but doing the vertical seam alignment of the original ProV1 392 felt like it really made a difference. I duno how that shit was usga legal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49178662) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 2:41 PM Author: Dave Prole My wife uses REVA balls that are bigger than normal but apparently still legal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49178672) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:17 PM Author: .,.,.;.,..,.,:.,:,..,..,::,..,,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:, old school british balls that were smaller and heavier and legal by the R&A until like 1990 were 180 as fuck apparently. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49178770) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:42 PM Author: Brother Peter Dimond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49178867) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 2:09 PM Author: Judas Jones I like mid-to-higher spin premium balls for chipping and wedges. I never buy Titleist because they're never really on steep discount, but Z-Star Diamond/XV, Wilson Staff Model/Model X, Callaway Chrome Soft X (now Chrome Tour X I think) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49178563) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 2:18 PM Author: .,.,.;.,..,.,:.,:,..,..,::,..,,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:, ProV1s are ubiquitous enough that you always find them around and you always have a stockpile. Callaways are popular but it's too much brain clutter to keep track of all the different versions they have and I end up defaulting them to shitball status for solo rounds and whatnot. Bridgestones are good balls but you have to make it a point to go and buy them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49178589) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 2:36 PM Author: Judas Jones Yeah, I play them a fair bit just from finding balls or getting a box of corporate proV1s from friends or whatever. I just don't notice enough of a difference to pay full retail when there are constant sales for premium offerings from other brands that have very similar offerings to the ProV1 or ProV1X. I waste enough money on golf as it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49178661) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 2:43 PM Author: Dave Prole Have you tried Vice Pro Plus
There is something different about their covers that feels better to me |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 2:49 PM Author: .,.,.;.,..,.,:.,:,..,..,::,..,,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:, are those considered like real/good balls? I find them around and assume it's all just women and oldmos losing them. kind of like noodles or whatever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49178701) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 9:43 PM Author: Dave Prole Only if they're Vice Pro, Pro Plus or Pro Soft/Air
They sell a lot of cheap 2-piece balls too
I wouldn't buy their clubs yet but any of the Pro balls are fine |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 8:44 AM Author: .,.,.;.,..,.,:.,:,..,..,::,..,,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:, that's too much work to sort through all this shit. Titleist knows what they're doing by sticking with the proV1 label for 25+ years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49181152) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 11:55 PM Author: Dave Prole It's one word on the ball man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49183454) |
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Date: August 18th, 2025 7:38 PM Author: .,.,.;.,..,.,:.,:,..,..,::,..,,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:, it's like 50 different balls from 8 different companies all with some variation of the same name. too much to keep track of and not worth it to not just play proV1s. bridgestones whatever they call their good ones now prob are better but still. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49195397) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:21 PM Author: Judas Jones No, haven't tried anything from Vice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49178785) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 2:18 PM Author: Brother Peter Dimond not any of the current ones but i used the old precept mc lady when they came out like 25 years ago. they were great during the summer when fairways were dry but greens watered a ton
but i do prefer a prov1 over an x for example because it feels softer. idk if its in my head but it always seemed easier to control a softer ball greenside even if it's supposed to spin less |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 2:45 PM Author: Dave Prole That's what I'm saying
It seems much easier to control chips with the softer balls but it's counterintuitive because they're supposed to have lower spin
I can see the qstar spin like crazy because of the divide colors. The zstar doesn't do that
I'm guessing it's because swing speed drops like 30 mph on chips |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 3:43 PM Author: Brother Peter Dimond cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49178868) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 9:06 PM Author: dha tux ( ) I buy used balls. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49180308) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 3:51 AM Author: Dave Prole I only buy new balls if I'm out of town and they're customized for that course
Only buy 5A pristine used balls besides that |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 8:47 AM Author: .,.,.;.,..,.,:.,:,..,..,::,..,,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:, I buy 4dz proV1x at the start of every year when they do the buy 3 get 1 free deal. good enough for serious rounds for the season and I use random ratballs I find here and there for the rest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49181158) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 12:45 PM Author: dha tux ( ) Yeah I get 5A chrome soft soccer balls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49181712) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 9:18 AM Author: Diane Rehm talking dirty (🐿️ ) I miss Balatas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49181241) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 10:02 AM Author: .,.,.;.,..,.,:.,:,..,..,::,..,,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:, big part of the reason guys like nicklaus, arnold, and even 2000 era Tiger were so dominant was that they were the only ones who could competently hit those shitty marshmallow balls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49181337) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 10:20 AM Author: Brother Peter Dimond did tiger ever play a balata? iirc even in '97 he used the titleist professional 90 which was wound but urethane covered.
but he switched to the multilayer nike ball in may 2000 right before he won the first major of the "tiger slam"
weird thing about nicklaus is the macgregor balls he played for most of his career were supposedly sps compared to what most other guys were using.
ive heard its possible that by 1980 he finally gave up on them and was playing "macgregors" that were actually titleists |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 10:52 AM Author: .,.,.;.,..,.,:.,:,..,..,::,..,,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:, i thought he used tour balatas but you're probably right about the timing of his nike switch, though the tour accuracy balls were hot garbage in their own right. I think you're right too about Jack's macgregor balls being garbage by even 1970s standards. the 1 irons he could hit 220 would probably go 300+ with a modern ball. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49181442) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 11:33 AM Author: Brother Peter Dimond yeah the tour accuracy ball wasnt good. maybe the ones tiger got were but the ones you could buy sucked.
i dont really remember playing stratas but those must have been alright as far as pre-proV multilayers. sutton and omeara did pretty well for oldmos after switching. trying omeara's was what made tiger want to switch from a wound titty. probably also losing the 2000 players to sutton |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 12:49 PM Author: Dave Prole Isn't that Titleist 90 balata? Justin Leonard won '97 Open using that ball (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49181728) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 12:57 PM Author: Brother Peter Dimond no the professional had a urethane cover, not a balata one.
that was the main difference between it and the "tour balata" titleist was still selling when the professional came out. they were both liquid core wound balls |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 1:03 PM Author: .,.,.;.,..,.,:.,:,..,..,::,..,,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:, Professional and Balata were both run at the same time. both were sps. basically both felt like a proV1 but 30 yds shorter off the tee and any hook or slice spun an extra 15 yards off line. balatas had the added bonus where if you ever caught one even slightly thin you'd end up with a smiley face cut mark and the ball would be unplayable.
kind of ridiculous how wound balls still were a thing up until not all that long ago. |
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Date: August 18th, 2025 4:22 PM Author: Dave Prole Anyone tried the PXG xtreme balls (regular tour or tour X)?
Golf Balls Addict ranked them #1 and 2 out of like 200 balls and they're cheap as fuck vs titleist |
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Date: August 18th, 2025 7:48 PM Author: unhygienic gay melvin When evaluating the relationship between compression rating and short-game performance, particularly with respect to chipping, one must consider the interaction between the ball’s core elasticity, cover hardness, and spin-generation capacity under conditions of low clubhead speed. Lower compression golf balls are engineered with softer cores, which deform more readily at impact, thereby requiring less force to achieve energy transfer. In the context of chipping, however, the ball is typically struck at low velocity with a descending blow designed to impart loft and controlled spin rather than maximize distance. Because the deformation of a lower compression ball under such minimal force is negligible relative to a full swing, the net difference in tactile feedback and launch dynamics between a low-compression ball and a higher-compression ball is minimal to nonexistent at the chip shot scale. The governing determinant of spin and control in the short game lies instead in the urethane or ionomer cover material and the dimple geometry, as these features dictate the degree of frictional engagement with the clubface grooves, moisture and grass interaction, and the resultant coefficient of restitution during glancing impact. Empirical testing consistently demonstrates that urethane-covered balls—regardless of compression—generate higher spin rates and greater stopping power than ionomer-covered alternatives, a fact attributable to their viscoelastic surface properties. Thus, while a player may perceive a subjective softness when chipping with a lower compression model, such perception is more likely a matter of acoustic feedback and feel than any material change in ball behavior under the applicable physical conditions. In legal-style reasoning, the proposition that lower compression balls confer a performance advantage in chipping is unsupported by substantial evidence, as the causal nexus between compression rating and short-game spin/trajectory is too attenuated; rather, it is the cover composition and surface interaction that constitute the proximate cause of performance variance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49195423) |
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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:21 PM Author: Dave Prole Yeah that makes sense. Since I made this thread I found a couple 95-100 compression balls that feel even better chipping than the 80s ones. Most of the 90s-100 balls felt like rocks to me though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761315&forum_id=2).#49195942) |