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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Fuchsia internal respiration
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate
  12/16/25
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Fuchsia internal respiration
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Spectacular Low-t Locale
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Spectacular Low-t Locale
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Spectacular Low-t Locale
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Fuchsia internal respiration
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Spectacular Low-t Locale
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Spectacular Low-t Locale
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Fuchsia internal respiration
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Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
poppy heady parlor
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate
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poppy heady parlor
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
transparent travel guidebook
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
lavender awkward garrison
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Electric Grizzly Mediation
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Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate
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Fuchsia internal respiration
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
curious sienna corner
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Sadistic location immigrant
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Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate
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curious sienna corner
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Fuchsia internal respiration
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Fuchsia internal respiration
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Spectacular Low-t Locale
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
razzmatazz space feces
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Fuchsia internal respiration



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Fuchsia internal respiration

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Spectacular Low-t Locale

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Spectacular Low-t Locale

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Spectacular Low-t Locale

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Fuchsia internal respiration

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Spectacular Low-t Locale

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Spectacular Low-t Locale

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Fuchsia internal respiration



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: poppy heady parlor

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: poppy heady parlor



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: transparent travel guidebook

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: lavender awkward garrison

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Electric Grizzly Mediation

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Fuchsia internal respiration



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: curious sienna corner

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Sadistic location immigrant

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Dashing Bat-shit-crazy Prole Senate



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: curious sienna corner



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Fuchsia internal respiration



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Spectacular Low-t Locale

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: razzmatazz space feces

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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