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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Flatulent field
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Excitant Spruce Pisswyrm
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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nyuug
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Vibrant party of the first part
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
fuchsia ape corner
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Vibrant party of the first part
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
fuchsia ape corner
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Vibrant party of the first part
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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Underhanded Useless Brakes
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Cyan beady-eyed property athletic conference
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cq
Kink-friendly principal's office
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
Sapphire sanctuary fat ankles
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
Titillating point
  07/02/25
i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
aqua office
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
Curious foreskin kitchen
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Flatulent field

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Excitant Spruce Pisswyrm

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Excitant Spruce Pisswyrm

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Excitant Spruce Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Excitant Spruce Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Excitant Spruce Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Excitant Spruce Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Excitant Spruce Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Excitant Spruce Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Excitant Spruce Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Excitant Spruce Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Excitant Spruce Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Excitant Spruce Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Excitant Spruce Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: Excitant Spruce Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Excitant Spruce Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49156580)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Vibrant party of the first part

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: fuchsia ape corner

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Vibrant party of the first part

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: fuchsia ape corner

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Vibrant party of the first part

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Titillating point

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Mentally Impaired Temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Underhanded Useless Brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Cyan beady-eyed property athletic conference

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Kink-friendly principal's office

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Sapphire sanctuary fat ankles

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Titillating point

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: aqua office

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Curious foreskin kitchen

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: trip karate azn

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49105022)