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Epstein question. Do we think he killed himself?
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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:33 AM Author: Jet Box Office Hissy Fit Options:
1. He is so loyal to his handlers that he killed himself in jail.
2. He was killed.
3. He didn't die when he was reported to die. |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:50 AM Author: Citrine Kitchen go back to MPC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105517) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:00 PM Author: khaki center filthpig What about he was facing life in prison, endless civil suits, and a stained very-public reputation, so he killed himself to avoid those consequences? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105827) |
Date: July 16th, 2025 10:36 AM Author: brilliant office I don't have any particular 'theory of the case' but I imagine the suicide was allowed to happen (vs someone slipping in and assassinating him)
Whether that was from his own depression, his loyalty to someone else, or some sort of occult or technological or psychological control, I have no idea |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 12:25 PM Author: deranged irate nibblets casino Cthulu? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105771) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:39 AM Author: Beady-eyed clown i am beginning to sense that Epstein being murdered is the Reddit Opinion, so I am now on team Epstein Killed Himself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105500) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:41 AM Author: supple hospital toilet seat One of those situations where circumstantial evidence is overwhelmingly against, but because there is no direct evidence proponents of the suicide claim can just stigmatize doubters as insane, and constantly demand direct evidence
Circumstantial evidence: - Very hard to physically kill self in suicide prevention cells in fed detention. Clothes and sheets are rip-away. Beds are short. - This was most famous inmate in history of fed custody, whose well-being would be primary concern of entire administration - Credible testimony from lawyer that JE was in good spirits - Objective evidence that JE was actively preparing for trial - Multiple layers of failsafes: Multiple cameras, multiple guards. Each and every layer happened to fail simultaneously - Less credible testimonial evidence of unusual activity at jail. Transport van arriving on weekend, not typical. Van not being signed in, not typical, etc.
Contextualize all of the above with the general suspicion, supported by the Palm Beach's DA on the record testimony ("he's with intelligence"), that JE was involved in secret state activities which means powerful forces would WANT him dead.
So you have motive, and a ton of circumstantial evidence.
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Date: July 16th, 2025 12:22 PM Author: Free-loading patrolman Can you ask grok what he thinks? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105762) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:15 AM Author: useless stirring ticket booth becky 3. He never died. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105579) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:15 AM Author: Heady Point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105580) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:01 PM Author: Concupiscible spruce station doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105830) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:18 AM Author: Heady Point it’s insane to believe that this man was running perhaps the largest blackmail scheme in human history involving billionaires and heads of state and his only recourse once arrested via typical channels was to kill himself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105582) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:20 AM Author: Jet Box Office Hissy Fit If he was a loyal intelligence set, maybe he did kill himself. I don't know but it is possible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105586) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:21 AM Author: Heady Point agreed, but this would mean he wasn’t “running” the operation, which should imply new and deeper questions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105592) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:19 AM Author: amethyst dilemma He killed himself out of shame upon realizing that ghislaine maxwell is a reddit moderator (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105583) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:20 AM Author: brilliant office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105588) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:20 AM Author: khaki center filthpig If you think he didn’t kill himself then you need to explain his failed suicide attempt 2 weeks before he died. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105585) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:26 PM Author: Aqua At-the-ready Address That part of the story is almost never brought up. Two weeks before he allegedly kills himself he’s found in his cell with bruises around his neck. They put him on suicide watch, per protocols, which requires heightened surveillance. Two weeks later he’s dead by suicide. In the interim he’d been working with his lawyers in preparation for his bail hearing (I think) and felt optimistic that he would be released because of the broad agreement that was in place as part of his prior conviction. But then security completely lapsed one night and he decided to lull himself again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106078) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:03 PM Author: Heady Point do you think it would be harder to stage a suicide or enter a failed suicide attempt into the record? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106346) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:21 PM Author: Maize piazza This guy tried to kill him, that’s where the bruises came from.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/12/us/nicholas-tartaglione-sentenced-epstein-cellmate |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 12:22 PM Author: Coral cracking site dingle berry Yes. Trump would never lie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105765) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 12:29 PM Author: Jet Box Office Hissy Fit Sometimes the government is obligated to lie or keep secrets and we have to accept that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105780) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:01 PM Author: Coral cracking site dingle berry esp about raping American kids. We wouldnt want the truth to come out and upset people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105829) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:12 PM Author: Jet Box Office Hissy Fit These weren't kids or pedophile stuff. These girls were 16+. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106042) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:24 PM Author: Coral cracking site dingle berry So if no crime, why cover up? You can fuck 16-17 abroad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106074) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:25 PM Author: fiercely-loyal round eye cuz government are our betters and we must kiss the ring and bless their kiddie sex
it's the ideal that birthed our nation |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:52 PM Author: fiercely-loyal round eye (thomas jefferson) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105986) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:05 PM Author: Spectacular Judgmental Property Keepsake Machete he was clearly killed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105840) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:13 PM Author: mahogany passionate locale feces Hell to the NO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49105863) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:32 PM Author: Provocative Blood Rage Define "killed." I think the most likely explanation was that his jailers knew that he was suicidal and also hated him as a pedo, so they gave him the proverbial rope to hang himself. It is weird, though, that the "full security video" was very obviously edited. I still think the most likely explanation was that the full video showed that they left a sheet or something for him to hang himself with, but it is still strange. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106243) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:16 PM Author: Lilac Menage Personal Credit Line What is this "we" bullshit? This isn't some kind of hive consciousness
I'm open to various things, but one of the ones I'm not is suicide. That's fucking ridiculous |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: Maize piazza Epstein was only the second successful “suicide” in 40 years at MCC.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/epstein-new-york-lockup-suicides |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:57 PM Author: Racy den Isn't it interesting that they waited until daytime, then wheeled his body, out of a bodybag, face uncovered, out in public so a well-placed photographer could capture a picture of said body, proving that he was, in fact, dead and had not, instead, walked out of jail and into a new chapter of his clearly very well connected life?
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/08/epstein-body.jpg
https://nypost.com/2022/08/10/jeffrey-epsteins-death-three-years-later-what-we-know-and-whats-still-a-mystery/ |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:58 PM Author: Filthy garrison place of business necessary state hit, he knew too many judges and politicians inside the system, I gather that the reason that public officials are freaking out about releasing the list is that SCOTUS are involved, foreign "dignitaries" etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2).#49106449) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 5:00 PM Author: trip state old irish cottage imo he is too rich and jewish to be killed and to kill himself
only possibility imo is body double + went back to israel to chill and retire |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 5:07 PM Author: Blathering Puce Twinkling Uncleanness Crackhouse otoh, people accused of sex crimes involving minors or young women often killself, before or after they go to jail.
otoh, inmates had an incentive to kill him regardless of the Mossad-IC angle.
otthirdhand, IC and Mossad had an incentive to have him killed.
otfourthhand, he could have accepted his fate for the greater good and either killedself or didn't fight when the inmate offed him.
how can we really know at this point? |