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Is gerrymandering constitutional?

I mean obviously it must be, if it's always been done and ha...
Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder
  11/08/12
the courts by not stopping it? as long as they don't have...
fragrant hairless digit ratio
  11/08/12
So it's just something that's not discussed at all in the Co...
Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder
  11/08/12
no it is discussed, but it's very hard to stop based on the ...
fragrant hairless digit ratio
  11/08/12
so if VRA justifies it, why has it been working against shit...
Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder
  11/08/12
B/c the VRA requires districts of at least 50% minority popu...
gaped son of senegal
  11/08/12
Liberals got rid of at-large districts and determining the m...
gaped son of senegal
  11/08/12
Actually Article I Section 4 Clause 1 allows Congress to red...
Heady Charcoal State Brethren
  11/08/12
Sure but that doesn't change the fact that gerrymandering is...
gaped son of senegal
  11/08/12
Elaborate on this please (im a non-lawschool bro)
Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder
  11/08/12
"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for ...
gaped son of senegal
  11/08/12
wtf, did they really misspell "choosing"? that's p...
Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder
  11/08/12
"Liberals got rid of at-large districts" - what do...
Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder
  11/08/12
Jurisdiction-covering districts (so for Congress, statewide)...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  08/27/25
As is typical with con law and its bullshit, it is not revie...
chartreuse trip ratface sound barrier
  11/08/12
Districts don't draw themselves bro
low-t foreskin set
  11/08/12
Congress needs to basically pass a law mandating that distri...
Heady Charcoal State Brethren
  11/08/12
Generated by Karl Rove's computer, yes
low-t foreskin set
  11/08/12
cr. Congress was elected by these gerrymandered districts...
fragrant hairless digit ratio
  11/08/12
Congressional term limits are of questionable constitutional...
Heady Charcoal State Brethren
  11/08/12
District borders should be geographically drawn and not used...
Amethyst theater
  11/08/12
agreed, although "geographically drawn" seems to b...
Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder
  11/08/12
this could be easily achieved with a computer algorithm that...
Heady Charcoal State Brethren
  11/08/12
hm. somehow i doubt congress would pass something which woul...
Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder
  11/08/12
This seem to be the cr way to do it: http://www.timesunio...
Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder
  11/08/12
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Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder
  11/08/12
cumskins love it. its their only way to "counter" ...
stubborn ceo crotch
  04/24/25
"bad things that happen in the anglosphere DONT COUNT!&...
stubborn ceo crotch
  04/24/25
another fucktarded cumskin caught gerrymandering, after gett...
stubborn ceo crotch
  05/07/25
Date: January 21st, 2024 9:18 PM Author: 202-225-3965 ...
stubborn ceo crotch
  05/07/25
he uses this same trick all the time. he is constantly tryin...
stubborn ceo crotch
  05/09/25
I live in an American suburb. I go days without seeing b...
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  05/19/25
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stubborn ceo crotch
  07/29/25
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nyuug
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nyuug
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nyuug
  08/26/25
leave gerry ALONE
curious magenta cumskin dilemma
  04/24/25
*Eldridge Posse*
vivacious arrogant giraffe reading party
  05/19/25
lol I forgot libs started this anti-gerrymandering campaign ...
walnut garrison karate
  07/29/25
you mean fucktarded cumskins who gerrymander their way out o...
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  07/29/25


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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:38 PM
Author: Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder

I mean obviously it must be, if it's always been done and hasn't been challenged, but what specifically grants states the right to do it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002135)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:39 PM
Author: fragrant hairless digit ratio

the courts by not stopping it?

as long as they don't have some racially driven motivation it's usually upheld.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002142)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:41 PM
Author: Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder

So it's just something that's not discussed at all in the Constitution either way, and since it's not, then it must be allowed, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002162)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:45 PM
Author: fragrant hairless digit ratio

no it is discussed, but it's very hard to stop based on the constitution or the Voting Rights Act. In fact, the VRA almost justifies gerrymandering because it's hard to tamper with majority minority districts. So a lot of Southern States have the justification to keep districts that are 90% black rather than a couple districts that are 45% black.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002186)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:47 PM
Author: Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder

so if VRA justifies it, why has it been working against shitlibs recently?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002210)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:52 PM
Author: gaped son of senegal

B/c the VRA requires districts of at least 50% minority population (some courts will say more). If you have 50% blacks in a district, you can be sure there will be a bunch of Hispanics and poor whites too, who similarly vote Democratic, and you end up with 80-90% Dem districts mandated by law.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002245)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:41 PM
Author: gaped son of senegal

Liberals got rid of at-large districts and determining the manner of representative elections is given to the state legislatures in art I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002153)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:45 PM
Author: Heady Charcoal State Brethren

Actually Article I Section 4 Clause 1 allows Congress to redistrict if it so pleases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002194)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:47 PM
Author: gaped son of senegal

Sure but that doesn't change the fact that gerrymandering isn't unconstitutional.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002205)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:49 PM
Author: Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder

Elaborate on this please (im a non-lawschool bro)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002221)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:54 PM
Author: gaped son of senegal

"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing [sic] Senators."

Theoretically Congress could pass a law outlawing gerrymandering by some definition, but the default is that the states are allowed to do what they want.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002269)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:58 PM
Author: Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder

wtf, did they really misspell "choosing"? that's pretty lulzy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002302)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 6:00 PM
Author: Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder

"Liberals got rid of at-large districts" - what does this mean? What are at-large districts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002313)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 1:04 AM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

Jurisdiction-covering districts (so for Congress, statewide), and the term is particularly used where (1) their are also subset districts and/or (2) the at-large district is multimember.

Congress eliminated these for itself (i.e., for federal House seats) ages ago -- like pre-Civil War -- requiring contiguous single-member districts that collectively cover the entire state; scotus required those districts (and all districts, not just congressional, where the body to which the candidates are being elected acts on a collective voting basis (basically: legislative districts, but not judicial or executive ones)) to be equipopulous, although, fun fact, the standard for equal population is actually *way* more demanding for federal House districts than it is for any other district.

Most of the modern action on at-large districts has been in the context of city/county council seats, where they were once popular, but the VRA has made having them very difficult.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#49215659)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:43 PM
Author: chartreuse trip ratface sound barrier

As is typical with con law and its bullshit, it is not reviewable unless it is too bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002175)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:39 PM
Author: low-t foreskin set

Districts don't draw themselves bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002138)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:40 PM
Author: Heady Charcoal State Brethren

Congress needs to basically pass a law mandating that districts be computer-generated ... but LOL @ Congress passing such a law



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002150)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:41 PM
Author: low-t foreskin set

Generated by Karl Rove's computer, yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002156)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:45 PM
Author: fragrant hairless digit ratio

cr.

Congress was elected by these gerrymandered districts, they have no incentive to stop this. just like they will never support term limits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002192)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:46 PM
Author: Heady Charcoal State Brethren

Congressional term limits are of questionable constitutionality

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002197)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:48 PM
Author: Amethyst theater

District borders should be geographically drawn and not used wildly as random political tools

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002218)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:50 PM
Author: Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder

agreed, although "geographically drawn" seems to be very subjective as well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002231)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:52 PM
Author: Heady Charcoal State Brethren

this could be easily achieved with a computer algorithm that tries to minimize a measure called 'distortion.' This is a mathematically well-studied problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002247)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 7:53 PM
Author: Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder

hm. somehow i doubt congress would pass something which would require doing something via a computer algorithm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002982)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:56 PM
Author: Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder

This seem to be the cr way to do it:

http://www.timesunion.com/opinion/article/Gerrymandering-Not-in-Iowa-1336319.php

Why cant more states do it like Iowa?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22002286)



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Date: November 8th, 2012 8:30 PM
Author: Avocado Bespoke Mental Disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#22003267)



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Date: April 24th, 2025 5:59 PM
Author: stubborn ceo crotch

cumskins love it. its their only way to "counter" NYUUG blowing their assholes out daily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#48877945)



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Date: April 24th, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: stubborn ceo crotch

"bad things that happen in the anglosphere DONT COUNT!" i live in a NIGGER-FREE NEIGHBORHOOD!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#48877953)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: stubborn ceo crotch

another fucktarded cumskin caught gerrymandering, after getting assraped by NYUUG LOLLERCAUST:

Date: May 7th, 2025 8:40 PM

Author: ,,,..,,.......,,....

SUPERIOR GOOK INTERRIGENCE

https://x.com/ArtemisConsort/status/1918023616714912237

Korean families spend more than 10% of their incomes educating each child, and still get outperformed on the PISA exam by American Asians and Whites. Remarkable.

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2479633&forum_id=2#48912251

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#48912268)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: stubborn ceo crotch

Date: January 21st, 2024 9:18 PM

Author: 202-225-3965

do you understand XO consists of more than one person? holy fuck you're dumb

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5479324&forum_id=2#47315375

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#48912306)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 12:12 AM
Author: stubborn ceo crotch

he uses this same trick all the time. he is constantly trying to point out "contradictions" in peoples opinions then he will suddenly start saying "xo says this" "cumskins say that" while cherry picking opinions from a pool of the entirety of xo poasters. its lulzy. like sorry nyuug, are you forgetting that this entire board hates you and there are 1000 diff opinions floating around from the past 15 years and varying things people say about you? obviously it isn't all going to be consistent.

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452555&forum_id=2#47115417

,lisped the special cumskin snowflake

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#48916044)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 4:13 AM
Author: stubborn ceo crotch

I live in an American suburb. I go days without seeing blacks. Sometimes months.

Date: May 19th, 2025 3:57 AM

Author: bho

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724895&forum_id=2#48943260

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#48943264)



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Date: May 25th, 2025 11:06 PM
Author: stubborn ceo crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#48961504)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 8:37 PM
Author: stubborn ceo crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#49141592)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: stubborn ceo crotch

MUH JDVANCE DURR DURR

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756295&mc=5&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#49144337)



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Date: August 6th, 2025 9:41 PM
Author: stubborn ceo crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#49163428)



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Date: August 7th, 2025 10:19 PM
Author: stubborn ceo crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#49166309)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 9:42 PM
Author: stubborn ceo crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#49173181)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 9:31 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#49214924)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:41 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#49215532)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#49215556)



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Date: April 24th, 2025 6:00 PM
Author: curious magenta cumskin dilemma

leave gerry ALONE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#48877946)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: vivacious arrogant giraffe reading party

*Eldridge Posse*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#48943640)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: walnut garrison karate

lol I forgot libs started this anti-gerrymandering campaign as soon as they won in 2012 because they thought they deserved the House too. Almost worked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#49141615)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: stubborn ceo crotch

you mean fucktarded cumskins who gerrymander their way out of every nyuug rapage, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2).#49141619)