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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
Overrated Rebellious Shitlib Heaven
  03/19/18
Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.
contagious umber goal in life
  03/19/18
it's despicable
Overrated Rebellious Shitlib Heaven
  03/19/18
Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out befo...
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lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, ...
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Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effo...
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  03/19/18
Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just ...
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You know what is really fucking insane is when people point ...
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i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked ab...
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  03/22/18
Good job man. We’d be friends.
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  05/12/18
This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if t...
Misunderstood macaca
  05/12/18
Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases?...
Overrated Rebellious Shitlib Heaven
  05/12/18
It flips them all so they curl away from the number.
Misunderstood macaca
  05/14/18
two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em b...
blue codepig parlour
  03/19/18
you can typically just use a voice command ime
dead travel guidebook nibblets
  03/19/18
Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced...
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  03/19/18
Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use ...
Overrated Rebellious Shitlib Heaven
  03/19/18
You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS c...
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  03/19/18
Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.
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The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a d...
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Amateur! Increase the font scale setting to increase the ...
contagious umber goal in life
  03/19/18
This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausi...
Overrated Rebellious Shitlib Heaven
  03/19/18
Very TTT. But who's going to check?
contagious umber goal in life
  05/14/18
People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, f...
blue codepig parlour
  03/19/18
"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me...
House-broken step-uncle's house
  03/19/18
Damn you're fast
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  03/19/18
That took several hours per my notebook of billables.
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  03/19/18
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I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and C...
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  03/20/18
This is — the credited criticism — so say I.
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Overrated Rebellious Shitlib Heaven

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: contagious umber goal in life

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Overrated Rebellious Shitlib Heaven

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: Big flirting gunner theatre

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641317)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: dead travel guidebook nibblets

lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, at a minimum, the trendash. Point to fact, in times of great exigency, I've gone so far as to make use of a pentadash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641319)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: disturbing bawdyhouse



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: dull zippy hunting ground kitchen



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: dead travel guidebook nibblets



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Date: August 4th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: narrow-minded hairy legs



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: Talented erotic sweet tailpipe

Trendash for life. What the fuck?

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: dead travel guidebook nibblets



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Splenetic histrionic voyeur



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Overrated Rebellious Shitlib Heaven

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: dead travel guidebook nibblets

(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers market goer)

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Overrated Rebellious Shitlib Heaven

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: House-broken step-uncle's house

Check out Eats, Shoots, and Trendashes

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: Sickened jade point dog poop



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: navy lascivious cruise ship newt



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: gold public bath jap



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Sickened jade point dog poop



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Slap-happy Glittery Area



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: buck-toothed stage twinkling uncleanness

Is this flame

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Chest-beating whorehouse

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Exhilarant sick indian lodge nowag

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: Overrated Rebellious Shitlib Heaven

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: Doobsian abnormal spot

cr, huge patent prole tell

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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Overrated Rebellious Shitlib Heaven



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: House-broken step-uncle's house



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: Razzle Property

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Overrated Rebellious Shitlib Heaven

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Misunderstood macaca

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Overrated Rebellious Shitlib Heaven

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: Misunderstood macaca

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: blue codepig parlour

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: dead travel guidebook nibblets

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: red flatulent reading party state

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Overrated Rebellious Shitlib Heaven

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: buck-toothed stage twinkling uncleanness

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: dead travel guidebook nibblets



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: contagious umber goal in life

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: irate university

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641395)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: contagious umber goal in life

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Overrated Rebellious Shitlib Heaven

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: contagious umber goal in life

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: blue codepig parlour

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641582)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: House-broken step-uncle's house

"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me away, toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641586)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: blue codepig parlour

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641601)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: House-broken step-uncle's house

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: blue codepig parlour



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: red flatulent reading party state

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: irate university

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641758)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: blue codepig parlour



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: blue codepig parlour

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641868)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: exciting ocher church building mad cow disease

*BEEP BEEP BEEP*

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: Aqua stag film rigpig

killself

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: Lime International Law Enforcement Agency Candlestick Maker

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Maize Dopamine School Cafeteria

transhyphenist non bigot here

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: khaki low-t useless brakes

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: soul-stirring emerald stain

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36038917)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: Misunderstood macaca

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36039460)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Iridescent tanning salon

Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36050530)