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Watched 'Euphoria' on HBO - is this is voice of "gen Z"? lmao

They act like they are the first generation brought up in an...
Marvelous chrome queen of the night
  06/21/19
To be fair, the oldest ziggers are like 22
cracking boiling water trailer park
  06/21/19
The main character was born Sept. 14, 2001.
domesticated liquid oxygen immigrant
  06/21/19
Despite its marketing saying otherwise, Euphoria is not repr...
Indecent Telephone
  06/21/19
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Embarrassed To The Bone Sadistic Persian Stead
  06/21/19
It seems like a weird attempt to take a show like Skins in B...
Marvelous chrome queen of the night
  06/21/19
Back in 94-95, lots of teenagers actually were living that w...
Indecent Telephone
  06/21/19
AIDS epidemic was peaking at that time, to be fair.
Marvelous chrome queen of the night
  06/21/19
Yeah but at the end, the straight dude supposedly gets AIDS ...
Indecent Telephone
  06/21/19
Oh, I thought he gave her AIDS when he rapes her while she's...
Marvelous chrome queen of the night
  06/21/19
You might be right. Edit: I think he rapes her and gets A...
Indecent Telephone
  06/21/19
similar observation: "Is Euphoria a nightmare dispat...
thriller pit
  06/21/19
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Marvelous chrome queen of the night
  06/21/19
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buff twisted jew hospital
  06/21/19
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Fragrant onyx parlor people who are hurt
  06/21/19
Because Gen Z bros are even more boring. All depressed wanti...
Silver galvanic ticket booth
  06/21/19
yeah that sounds like me
Saffron Turdskin
  06/22/19
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crimson newt tank
  06/22/19
The people who made this show are mentally ill and ingest hu...
red curious set
  06/21/19
lol
Marvelous chrome queen of the night
  06/21/19
I was projecting tbh
red curious set
  06/21/19
lol
Marvelous chrome queen of the night
  06/21/19
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Saffron Turdskin
  06/21/19
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motley forum puppy
  06/21/19
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domesticated liquid oxygen immigrant
  06/23/19
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flesh sanctuary
  07/18/19
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Azure Vibrant Half-breed
  12/12/20
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domesticated liquid oxygen immigrant
  05/15/24
you mean the joo director and tv execs
drunken keepsake machete volcanic crater
  06/21/19
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tripping geriatric chapel feces
  06/21/19
the guy that wrote and created the show is our age. what wou...
startling spectacular address athletic conference
  06/21/19
Maybe one day a woman will write about her creepy childhood ...
Marvelous chrome queen of the night
  06/21/19
i have enriched their lives!
startling spectacular address athletic conference
  06/21/19
lol @ gen z writing shows romanticizing their teen years spe...
tripping geriatric chapel feces
  06/21/19
they should have a scene where an 11 year old girl goes on t...
startling spectacular address athletic conference
  06/21/19
you doin alright, man?
Hateful home legend
  06/21/19
yeah i just saw on the news that some 20 year old fucked an ...
startling spectacular address athletic conference
  06/21/19
this has probably happened to tens of thousands of men witho...
motley forum puppy
  06/21/19
some 11 year olds are very mature. hard to tell their real a...
startling spectacular address athletic conference
  06/21/19
some "conservative" e-thot was just outed as havin...
Hateful home legend
  06/21/19
camwhoring is a great and easy source of income. ive seen wo...
startling spectacular address athletic conference
  06/21/19
askav has a private feet pics snapchat what are you goi...
Hateful home legend
  06/21/19
little girls can make million$ just selling snapchats of the...
startling spectacular address athletic conference
  06/21/19
lol @ this boomer kike with AIDS
motley forum puppy
  06/21/19
...
Autistic Theater Pistol
  06/21/19
Everyone one of those high school actors is at least 21
arrogant state prole
  06/21/19
this is the case for most high school movies/TV shows
cracking boiling water trailer park
  06/22/19
It is totally ridiculous, btw.
vivacious disrespectful school circlehead
  06/24/19
90210 was worse iirc. luke perry was like 30 playing a sophm...
barnabyjones
  08/25/25
Kikes even snuck in Piss Christ. Lol gasol, now
Aphrodisiac mood menage
  06/21/19
I really didn't think it was THAT bad. it wasn't all that go...
buff twisted jew hospital
  06/21/19
ok i checked it out, fucking garbage. its not even good. ...
startling spectacular address athletic conference
  06/21/19
i haven't watched it yet but everything you're describing is...
dun elite french chef
  06/22/19
I've got to get my kids the fuck out of here
crimson newt tank
  06/22/19
the united states is no place for a child but noone will eve...
dun elite french chef
  06/22/19
I think they have
crimson newt tank
  06/22/19
...
startling spectacular address athletic conference
  06/22/19
The ‘Euphoria’ Teenagers Are Wild. But Most Real...
Provocative french kitty theatre
  06/23/19
c/p
Shivering nowag cruise ship
  06/25/19
They do these articles all the time. "Hey, you know ho...
vivacious disrespectful school circlehead
  06/26/19
yeah not shit, but read the thread
Claret Passionate Dopamine Voyeur
  08/06/19
This is clearly this generation's My So-Called Life. Just H...
vivacious disrespectful school circlehead
  06/24/19
she got dem big ol tiddays
Lascivious rehab hairy legs
  08/06/19
Sam Levinson (son of director Barry Levinson) is the showrun...
SkaddenArse
  08/25/25
(old man shakes fist angrily)
Oh, you travel?
  08/25/25


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Date: June 21st, 2019 12:14 PM
Author: Marvelous chrome queen of the night

They act like they are the first generation brought up in an era where kids were overly saturated with media, had Rx drugs foisted upon them for all manner of real or imagined 'disorders' like 'adhd', turned to drugs and alcohol to combat the pain and ennui of life and engage in casual sex all in a quest to momentarily have 'euphoria' to dull the pain. The main character even talks about how she was born on 9/11 into a "crazy new world" - well, at least you weren't the generation sent over to Iraq and Afghanistan to get blown up. She then goes on to say "I had the typical middle class life" - oh, the horror! The horror of suburban America! No one has ever commented on this before!

Their entire generational oeuvre so far seems to be centered around a narcissistic false sense of 'uniqueness', a sense of existential ennui and anxiety from being in an increasingly fast moving world, all the while having innovated in no real way and not done or gone through any real unique experience with which to attribute their judgmental attitude. They even talk about how college is pointless because "climate change will destroy the world soon". LJL at these privileged, trite idiots re-doing bored, entitled apathy as "art".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38420698)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 12:18 PM
Author: cracking boiling water trailer park

To be fair, the oldest ziggers are like 22

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38420735)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 12:18 PM
Author: domesticated liquid oxygen immigrant

The main character was born Sept. 14, 2001.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38420739)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 12:22 PM
Author: Indecent Telephone

Despite its marketing saying otherwise, Euphoria is not representative of Gen Z. All the behaviors like teenage drinking, drug use, pregnancy, even driving are in free fall, and have been steadily declining for decades. Euphoria seems to be trying to bring back teenage misbehavior, or at least convince people that it's normal, but I suspect that it will have trouble doing that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38420754)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 12:22 PM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Sadistic Persian Stead



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Date: June 21st, 2019 12:24 PM
Author: Marvelous chrome queen of the night

It seems like a weird attempt to take a show like Skins in Britain, "Gen Z-ize" it and yet it ends up totally uninteresting and reductive.

The movie Kids from 1995 was way more frightening and riveting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38420769)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 12:26 PM
Author: Indecent Telephone

Back in 94-95, lots of teenagers actually were living that way. They went a little too hard on the AIDS hysteria though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38420784)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 12:27 PM
Author: Marvelous chrome queen of the night

AIDS epidemic was peaking at that time, to be fair.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38420788)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 12:29 PM
Author: Indecent Telephone

Yeah but at the end, the straight dude supposedly gets AIDS from unprotected vaginal sex with a chick who just had unprotected sex with an infected guy. Not sure it works that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38420798)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 12:30 PM
Author: Marvelous chrome queen of the night

Oh, I thought he gave her AIDS when he rapes her while she's sleeping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38420806)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 12:32 PM
Author: Indecent Telephone

You might be right.

Edit: I think he rapes her and gets AIDSpwned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38420812)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 3:20 PM
Author: thriller pit

similar observation:

"Is Euphoria a nightmare dispatch from the front lines of the latest teen revolution? That’s its pose, as was the case for Kids, but I’m skeptical: Teen misbehavior of various kinds seems to be trending steadily downward, and anyway fretting about what our teens are getting up to probably goes back at least as far as Little House on the Prairie. Euphoria feels more like the work of a slightly desperate middle-aged writer doing his best to cram as many outlandishly lurid events into each episode as he possibly can with an eye toward totally f***ing freaking out parents, who after all are the ones who pay for the HBO subscriptions. Maybe they’ll be so wound up they won’t be able to tear their eyes away. I’m not necessarily hearing a teen cry for help, but I can definitely hear a writer’s cry to be noticed in a universe of 500 scripted shows. HBO folk told the Hollywood Reporter they hope to make Netflix’s 13 Reasons Why “look like an after-school special,” and “we’re not trying to do Gossip Girl.” The standard cited is not the lived experience of any actual teens but the fictional teens of other TV worlds. Teens may watch the show, but I doubt they’ll find that the show captures their lives any more than Game of Thrones does."

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/06/hbo-euphoria-trolling-america/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421570)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 3:23 PM
Author: Marvelous chrome queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421578)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 4:32 PM
Author: buff twisted jew hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421832)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 5:22 PM
Author: Fragrant onyx parlor people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38422005)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 5:45 PM
Author: Silver galvanic ticket booth

Because Gen Z bros are even more boring. All depressed wanting to kill themselves but they just MEGAPOST and stay at home instead of going to wild parties and benders like in the show. But no one would watch a show about the average XO poster, sitting in their dark room 14 hours a day posting youtube comments until they kill self.

I thought Euphoria was great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38422070)



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Date: June 22nd, 2019 1:56 AM
Author: Saffron Turdskin

yeah that sounds like me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38423814)



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Date: June 22nd, 2019 1:48 AM
Author: crimson newt tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38423791)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 12:27 PM
Author: red curious set

The people who made this show are mentally ill and ingest huge amounts of narcotics every morning just to tie their shoes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38420786)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 12:27 PM
Author: Marvelous chrome queen of the night

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38420789)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 12:31 PM
Author: red curious set

I was projecting tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38420809)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 12:34 PM
Author: Marvelous chrome queen of the night

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38420829)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 12:35 PM
Author: Saffron Turdskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38420833)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 4:44 PM
Author: motley forum puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421868)



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Date: June 23rd, 2019 9:29 PM
Author: domesticated liquid oxygen immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38430081)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 6:37 PM
Author: flesh sanctuary



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Date: December 12th, 2020 9:34 PM
Author: Azure Vibrant Half-breed



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Date: May 15th, 2024 10:26 AM
Author: domesticated liquid oxygen immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#47663063)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 2:52 PM
Author: drunken keepsake machete volcanic crater

you mean the joo director and tv execs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421479)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 3:00 PM
Author: tripping geriatric chapel feces



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Date: June 21st, 2019 3:25 PM
Author: startling spectacular address athletic conference

the guy that wrote and created the show is our age. what would he know about what teens feel like? we will get to find out what these teens today feel like when they are in their 30s creating shows about their experience, maybe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421585)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 3:27 PM
Author: Marvelous chrome queen of the night

Maybe one day a woman will write about her creepy childhood experience of a man high on drugs trying to talk to her at the mall.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421592)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 3:30 PM
Author: startling spectacular address athletic conference

i have enriched their lives!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421604)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 3:38 PM
Author: tripping geriatric chapel feces

lol @ gen z writing shows romanticizing their teen years spent watching vine compilations and snapping each other

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421645)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 4:02 PM
Author: startling spectacular address athletic conference

they should have a scene where an 11 year old girl goes on tinder, writes that she is 18, and meets up with some 20 year old CHAD, and gets fucked in her pussy and her ass and falls in love with him. we need to see it all. thats how things are in 2019, show the truth, hbo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421732)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 4:29 PM
Author: Hateful home legend

you doin alright, man?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421824)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 4:50 PM
Author: startling spectacular address athletic conference

yeah i just saw on the news that some 20 year old fucked an 11 year old that he met through the app and hes not going to do any jail time because his defense was that she tricked him and he thought she was 18.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421881)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 4:51 PM
Author: motley forum puppy

this has probably happened to tens of thousands of men without them even knowing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421887)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 4:53 PM
Author: startling spectacular address athletic conference

some 11 year olds are very mature. hard to tell their real age.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421895)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 5:02 PM
Author: Hateful home legend

some "conservative" e-thot was just outed as having been a camwhore when she was 14-16.

sick times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421933)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 5:09 PM
Author: startling spectacular address athletic conference

camwhoring is a great and easy source of income. ive seen women just sit there and make thousands of dollars within 30 minutes. hard to pass up that kind of "money on the table".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421954)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 5:11 PM
Author: Hateful home legend

askav has a private feet pics snapchat

what are you going to do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421962)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 5:12 PM
Author: startling spectacular address athletic conference

little girls can make million$ just selling snapchats of their feet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421965)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 4:43 PM
Author: motley forum puppy

lol @ this boomer kike with AIDS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421867)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 4:51 PM
Author: Autistic Theater Pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421891)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 5:13 PM
Author: arrogant state prole

Everyone one of those high school actors is at least 21

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38421968)



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Date: June 22nd, 2019 1:41 AM
Author: cracking boiling water trailer park

this is the case for most high school movies/TV shows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38423773)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 12:27 AM
Author: vivacious disrespectful school circlehead

It is totally ridiculous, btw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38430872)



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Date: August 25th, 2025 12:49 PM
Author: barnabyjones

90210 was worse iirc. luke perry was like 30 playing a sophmore. I think my so called life kept it all within a year or two - which is part of its charm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#49211274)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 5:38 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac mood menage

Kikes even snuck in Piss Christ. Lol gasol, now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38422049)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 5:41 PM
Author: buff twisted jew hospital

I really didn't think it was THAT bad. it wasn't all that good, but it wasn't horrendous. more enjoyable and watchable than the pilot for girls imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38422060)



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Date: June 21st, 2019 6:07 PM
Author: startling spectacular address athletic conference

ok i checked it out, fucking garbage. its not even good.

so this is supposed to be some generation defining tv show? lol there is nothing good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38422141)



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Date: June 22nd, 2019 1:46 AM
Author: dun elite french chef

i haven't watched it yet but everything you're describing is actually associated with ARE millennial generation

i assume this is our equivalent of out of touch boomers making shows about their idyllic lives for young gen xers back in their day

there are a lot of cultural similarities between millennials and Gen Z but there are a lot of major differences that lurk iceberg style just underneath the surface of popular discussion

it's hard to pin Z culture down just because (somehow) they're even less expressive, more poorly educated, and more autistic on average than we were

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38423788)



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Date: June 22nd, 2019 1:49 AM
Author: crimson newt tank

I've got to get my kids the fuck out of here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38423794)



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Date: June 22nd, 2019 1:50 AM
Author: dun elite french chef

the united states is no place for a child but noone will ever come right out and just tell you that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38423796)



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Date: June 22nd, 2019 1:52 AM
Author: crimson newt tank

I think they have

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38423799)



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Date: June 22nd, 2019 1:53 AM
Author: startling spectacular address athletic conference



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Date: June 23rd, 2019 6:46 PM
Author: Provocative french kitty theatre

The ‘Euphoria’ Teenagers Are Wild. But Most Real Teenagers Are Tame.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/23/upshot/euphoria-hbo-teens-sex-drugs.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38429400)



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Date: June 25th, 2019 1:35 PM
Author: Shivering nowag cruise ship

c/p

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38438046)



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Date: June 26th, 2019 4:17 PM
Author: vivacious disrespectful school circlehead

They do these articles all the time. "Hey, you know how X TV show showed Y? Turns out, it isn't real life, it is just TV! No shit...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38444042)



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Date: August 6th, 2019 7:10 PM
Author: Claret Passionate Dopamine Voyeur

yeah not shit, but read the thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38648291)



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Date: June 24th, 2019 12:29 AM
Author: vivacious disrespectful school circlehead

This is clearly this generation's My So-Called Life. Just HBO version (so they can show nudity/sex).

Also, Sydney Sweeney is ridiculously attractive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38430883)



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Date: August 6th, 2019 7:07 PM
Author: Lascivious rehab hairy legs

she got dem big ol tiddays

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#38648273)



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Date: August 25th, 2025 10:59 AM
Author: SkaddenArse

Sam Levinson (son of director Barry Levinson) is the showrunner. per wiki "It is based on the Israeli miniseries of the same name created by Ron Leshem and Daphna Levin."

the show is literally a mossad psyop.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4287403&forum_id=2).#49210973)



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Date: August 25th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: Oh, you travel? ( )

(old man shakes fist angrily)

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