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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
citrine trailer park prole
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
godawful misanthropic bawdyhouse
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
Hilarious volcanic crater striped hyena
  06/15/18
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vivacious iridescent dilemma selfie
  06/15/18
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vivacious iridescent dilemma selfie
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
pearl violent tattoo
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
Irradiated Khaki Crotch
  10/06/21
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citrine trailer park prole
  02/12/22
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boner police?s buttondick
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
useless mewling native scourge upon the earth
  06/15/18
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vivacious iridescent dilemma selfie
  06/15/18
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bronze step-uncle's house
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
useless mewling native scourge upon the earth
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
obsidian aphrodisiac associate university
  06/15/18
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Filthy claret cruise ship
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
vivacious iridescent dilemma selfie
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
dun motley base sex offender
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
Azure Really Tough Guy
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
marvelous hominid kitty
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
pearl violent tattoo
  06/15/18
sounds 180
useless mewling native scourge upon the earth
  06/15/18
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Filthy claret cruise ship
  06/15/18
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bronze step-uncle's house
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
crimson stage
  06/15/18
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vivacious iridescent dilemma selfie
  06/15/18
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Hilarious volcanic crater striped hyena
  06/15/18
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bronze step-uncle's house
  06/15/18
https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1
bronze step-uncle's house
  06/15/18
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marvelous hominid kitty
  06/15/18
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Gold Crawly Sweet Tailpipe Fortuitous Meteor
  06/15/18
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bronze step-uncle's house
  02/15/21
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Gold Crawly Sweet Tailpipe Fortuitous Meteor
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
citrine trailer park prole
  10/06/21
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citrine trailer park prole
  01/18/25
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
Tan Razzle Spot
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
citrine trailer park prole
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
Hairraiser roast beef home
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
citrine trailer park prole
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
Hairraiser roast beef home
  06/15/18
Explain
citrine trailer park prole
  06/15/18
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citrine trailer park prole
  06/16/18
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citrine trailer park prole
  09/04/18
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Gold Crawly Sweet Tailpipe Fortuitous Meteor
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
vibrant fiercely-loyal affirmative action set
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
Purple electric dragon school cafeteria
  06/15/18
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citrine trailer park prole
  02/12/21
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crusty goyim
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bronze step-uncle's house
  02/15/21
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citrine trailer park prole
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
Arousing jet-lagged gaming laptop
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
mind-boggling rough-skinned indian lodge
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
citrine trailer park prole
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
Contagious Toaster
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
citrine trailer park prole
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
Contagious Toaster
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
citrine trailer park prole
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
titillating puce theater
  02/12/21
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crusty goyim
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
Arousing jet-lagged gaming laptop
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
titillating puce theater
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
Concupiscible death wish
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
titillating puce theater
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
Concupiscible death wish
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
mind-boggling rough-skinned indian lodge
  02/12/21
lol no
Canary cuck
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
sepia electric furnace
  02/15/21
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citrine trailer park prole
  06/29/21
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citrine trailer park prole
  10/06/21
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startling impressive useless brakes
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
insanely creepy racy garrison
  10/06/21
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citrine trailer park prole
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: citrine trailer park prole

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: godawful misanthropic bawdyhouse

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Hilarious volcanic crater striped hyena

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: vivacious iridescent dilemma selfie



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: vivacious iridescent dilemma selfie



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: pearl violent tattoo

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: Irradiated Khaki Crotch

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: citrine trailer park prole



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: boner police?s buttondick ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: useless mewling native scourge upon the earth

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: vivacious iridescent dilemma selfie



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: bronze step-uncle's house



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: useless mewling native scourge upon the earth

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: obsidian aphrodisiac associate university

goes a long way in shaker heights

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Filthy claret cruise ship



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: vivacious iridescent dilemma selfie

Cr. Thats city janitor money

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: dun motley base sex offender

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: Azure Really Tough Guy

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: marvelous hominid kitty

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: pearl violent tattoo

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: useless mewling native scourge upon the earth

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Filthy claret cruise ship



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: bronze step-uncle's house



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: crimson stage

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: vivacious iridescent dilemma selfie



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Hilarious volcanic crater striped hyena



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: bronze step-uncle's house



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: bronze step-uncle's house

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: marvelous hominid kitty



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: Gold Crawly Sweet Tailpipe Fortuitous Meteor



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: bronze step-uncle's house



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: Gold Crawly Sweet Tailpipe Fortuitous Meteor



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: citrine trailer park prole

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: citrine trailer park prole



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Tan Razzle Spot

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: citrine trailer park prole

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Hairraiser roast beef home

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: citrine trailer park prole

Eat my dick nigger lover

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Hairraiser roast beef home

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: citrine trailer park prole

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: citrine trailer park prole



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: citrine trailer park prole



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: Gold Crawly Sweet Tailpipe Fortuitous Meteor



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: vibrant fiercely-loyal affirmative action set

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: Purple electric dragon school cafeteria

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: citrine trailer park prole



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: crusty goyim



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: bronze step-uncle's house



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: citrine trailer park prole



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: Arousing jet-lagged gaming laptop

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: mind-boggling rough-skinned indian lodge

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: citrine trailer park prole

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: Contagious Toaster

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: citrine trailer park prole

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: Contagious Toaster

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: citrine trailer park prole

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: titillating puce theater

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: crusty goyim



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: Arousing jet-lagged gaming laptop

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: titillating puce theater

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: Concupiscible death wish

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: titillating puce theater

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: Concupiscible death wish

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: mind-boggling rough-skinned indian lodge

(Stevie Brogan)

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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: Canary cuck

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: sepia electric furnace

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: citrine trailer park prole



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: citrine trailer park prole



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: startling impressive useless brakes



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: insanely creepy racy garrison

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: citrine trailer park prole



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