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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Garnet Field
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting
  12/16/25
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Garnet Field
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
brilliant cuckold
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
brilliant cuckold
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
brilliant cuckold
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Garnet Field
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
brilliant cuckold
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
brilliant cuckold
  12/17/25
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Garnet Field
  12/17/25
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Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Bearded indigo spot
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting
  12/16/25
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Bearded indigo spot
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Swashbuckling gay institution corn cake
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
cheese-eating turquoise clown trailer park
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Saffron aromatic twinkling uncleanness
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Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting
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Garnet Field
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Irradiated harsh set
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
big karate
  12/17/25
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Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting
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Irradiated harsh set
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Garnet Field
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Garnet Field
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
brilliant cuckold
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
bateful point
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Garnet Field



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Garnet Field

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: brilliant cuckold

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2).#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: brilliant cuckold

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2).#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: brilliant cuckold

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Garnet Field

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: brilliant cuckold

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: brilliant cuckold

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2).#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Garnet Field



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Bearded indigo spot

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Bearded indigo spot



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Swashbuckling gay institution corn cake

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: cheese-eating turquoise clown trailer park

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2).#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Saffron aromatic twinkling uncleanness

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Garnet Field



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Irradiated harsh set

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: big karate

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Confused Hell Famous Landscape Painting



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Irradiated harsh set



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Garnet Field



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: brilliant cuckold

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2).#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: bateful point

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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