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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
Haunting bistre old irish cottage
  03/19/18
Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.
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  03/19/18
it's despicable
Haunting bistre old irish cottage
  03/19/18
Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out befo...
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  03/19/18
I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a ...
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  03/19/18
Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effo...
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  03/19/18
Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just ...
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  03/19/18
You know what is really fucking insane is when people point ...
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i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked ab...
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  03/22/18
Good job man. We’d be friends.
Haunting bistre old irish cottage
  05/12/18
This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if t...
azure titillating pit
  05/12/18
Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases?...
Haunting bistre old irish cottage
  05/12/18
It flips them all so they curl away from the number.
azure titillating pit
  05/14/18
two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em b...
wonderful gas station
  03/19/18
you can typically just use a voice command ime
cyan embarrassed to the bone fortuitous meteor chad
  03/19/18
Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced...
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  03/19/18
Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use ...
Haunting bistre old irish cottage
  03/19/18
You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS c...
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  03/19/18
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  03/19/18
Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.
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The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a d...
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  03/19/18
Amateur! Increase the font scale setting to increase the ...
cracking jet generalized bond
  03/19/18
This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausi...
Haunting bistre old irish cottage
  03/19/18
Very TTT. But who's going to check?
cracking jet generalized bond
  05/14/18
People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, f...
wonderful gas station
  03/19/18
"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me...
Indigo disrespectful point
  03/19/18
Damn you're fast
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  03/19/18
That took several hours per my notebook of billables.
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Haunting bistre old irish cottage

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: cracking jet generalized bond

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Haunting bistre old irish cottage

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: exhilarant nursing home

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641317)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: cyan embarrassed to the bone fortuitous meteor chad

lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, at a minimum, the trendash. Point to fact, in times of great exigency, I've gone so far as to make use of a pentadash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641319)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: Thriller magenta stage



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: flesh laser beams institution



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: cyan embarrassed to the bone fortuitous meteor chad



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Date: August 4th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: pale stirring school cafeteria



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: odious low-t weed whacker stage

Trendash for life. What the fuck?

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: cyan embarrassed to the bone fortuitous meteor chad



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Shimmering legal warrant mother



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Haunting bistre old irish cottage

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: cyan embarrassed to the bone fortuitous meteor chad

(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers market goer)

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Haunting bistre old irish cottage

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: Indigo disrespectful point

Check out Eats, Shoots, and Trendashes

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: slimy toaster



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: White rehab



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: Big Bull Headed Parlor Trust Fund



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: slimy toaster



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Insane feces depressive



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Stubborn know-it-all quadroon

Is this flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641326)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: racy market

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: pea-brained station codepig

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: Haunting bistre old irish cottage

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: Well-lubricated cordovan corner

cr, huge patent prole tell

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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Haunting bistre old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35652523)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Indigo disrespectful point



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: Violet indirect expression

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Haunting bistre old irish cottage

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: azure titillating pit

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Haunting bistre old irish cottage

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: azure titillating pit

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: wonderful gas station

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: cyan embarrassed to the bone fortuitous meteor chad

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: magical mental disorder mad cow disease

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Haunting bistre old irish cottage

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Stubborn know-it-all quadroon

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: cyan embarrassed to the bone fortuitous meteor chad



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: cracking jet generalized bond

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: light bawdyhouse reading party

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: cracking jet generalized bond

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Haunting bistre old irish cottage

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: cracking jet generalized bond

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: wonderful gas station

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641582)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Indigo disrespectful point

"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me away, toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641586)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: wonderful gas station

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641601)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Indigo disrespectful point

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: wonderful gas station



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: magical mental disorder mad cow disease

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35641748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: light bawdyhouse reading party

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: wonderful gas station



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: wonderful gas station

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: Grizzly plaza

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: sepia really tough guy party of the first part

killself

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: dark office

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac cocky genital piercing casino

transhyphenist non bigot here

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: Comical henna community account new version

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: charismatic garrison idiot

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36038917)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: azure titillating pit

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36039460)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Glittery lay

Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2).#36050530)