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what kind of gun was that? incredible ballistics
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Date: September 10th, 2025 10:15 PM Author: stimulating brass theatre brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253126) |
Date: September 10th, 2025 10:16 PM Author: outnumbered tank community account Shooter was trying to dome Charlie, bullet drop got him in the neck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253130) |
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Date: September 10th, 2025 10:30 PM Author: motley domesticated corn cake haunted graveyard It actually got him in his vest and ricocheted into his neck.
There is slowmo video on twitter showing this pretty clearly |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:10 AM Author: stimulating brass theatre brethren fuckin a (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253842) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:38 AM Author: titillating deranged rigor black woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253879) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:17 AM Author: Charismatic Hyperactive Spot Lots of Mossad training to bounce a bullet perfectly like that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253854) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:18 AM Author: stimulating brass theatre brethren yeah theres no way even a Dorner type couldve pulled that off - this was elite training (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253855) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:38 AM Author: titillating deranged rigor black woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253880) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:14 AM Author: Hairraiser Carmine Kitchen He wasn't wearing a vest. He was wearing a Tshirt. Are people really this fucking dumb? It was probably a 30-06. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253941) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 8:41 AM Author: peach native I am not a ballistics expertmo (and haven’t seen any videos and demurely don’t want to) but how the hell does a bullet traveling at 2000 mph hit a body and not just continued on its course? I would think it would have just smashed through whatever it hit - not make a 90 degree turn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49254379) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 9:00 AM Author: Glassy Senate Party Of The First Part i am not a gunmo but that seems unlikely (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49254450) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 9:19 AM Author: Green garrison ape link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49254513) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:12 AM Author: Tan flickering selfie gaming laptop Looked like a slug from a 12g with a long barrel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253847) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:36 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe That would be a very good shot from 200 yards. And a crazy weapon to choose I am near certain it was a rifle as I discuss below. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253871) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:22 AM Author: Hairraiser Carmine Kitchen "very good shot from 200 yards"
Eh, sounds like it's pretty standard riflery for a basic Marine: https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2021/02/23/the-new-marine-corps-rifle-qualification-is-here/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
And they're not laying on the roof of a building with a scope. |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 8:45 AM Author: Lavender multi-billionaire He's saying that would be an exceptional shot from a shotgun (which is true) which points towards it more likely being a rifle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49254390) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 9:17 AM Author: stirring nursing home hissy fit EPAH doesn't understand things like the difference between guns and how submarines work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49254506) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 11:08 AM Author: cordovan infuriating lay sound barrier No. Just no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49254988) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:15 AM Author: Thriller market impossible to say but any rifle from that range would produce that kind of wound, could be a .223 or a 30.06, probably not the later though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253851) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:17 AM Author: stimulating brass theatre brethren doesnt sound like a 30 aught
but too much damage for a .243, and if it ricocheted off vest thats just an absurdly well placed shot especially if windy
imagine if he got domed live like that fuckin a |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:25 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe It seems to me that the video was sufficiently effective as is. I don’t think you can tell what caliber of rifle from the video. It could be anything from .223 and up to .338 lapua (I doubt it a .338 or 300 winmag or anything like that). No second shot is vaguely informative as it makes it marginally more likely the shooter used a bolt action which makes it marginally more likely it was more like a 30 caliber or derivative of a 30 caliber: .308/7.62 NATO, .30-06 or necked down versions of one of those (e.g. .243 which is a necked down .308). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253861) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:26 AM Author: Thriller market I have a hard time believing it ricocheted of a vest, that would be wild (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253863) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:33 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe I have not seen that video. Link? I will say it did look like an odd shot placement/angle impact but hard to tell. When you shoot things (hunting or people) odd things sometimes happen. It would be wild if the shooter hit him in the plate carrier (which is a perfect shot for shooting someone without a vest) and it did bounce off and hit his neck. [EDIT: I now have seen the video and I am still not sure what happened]. However, a common answer is usually correct. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253865) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:35 AM Author: Charismatic Hyperactive Spot There is a vid on X where you can clearly see what looks like a bullet bouncing off his right shoulder before hitting his left neck. You also see his body armor shake as if shot in the chest. https://x.com/cottusmarcus/status/1965884758585651384 https://x.com/TheTunniverse/status/1965899972328804823
His shirt goes flying before it hits the neck. |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:37 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe Wow. Not sure exactly what happened, but the hole take a split second to start bleeding and a rifle bullet will move fabric as it goes by. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253874) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:45 AM Author: Charismatic Hyperactive Spot It doesn't make sense. It really does look like a ricochet. A lot of witnesses said it looked like he was shot in the chest. It really does look like it bounces back up into the neck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253890) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:47 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe See the pic below, but where is the hole in his t-shirt if it hit center of mass and bounced up? I was convinced it was a ricochet but now I am not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253895) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:29 PM Author: Grizzly Associate Pistol It looked to me like he might have been wearing a DJI type pod microphone under his shirt since they are ubiquitous for social media filming and he wouldn't necessarily have the PA systems audio for later sound bites. And that's what got "ricocheted" in those few frames (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49255464) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:37 AM Author: Thriller market body armor doesn't cover the right shoulder, you can get a plate that gets most of your chest but anything on the shoulder is just nylon, and he didn't look to be wearing a plate, soft armor is nothing against actual rifles also (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253875) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:42 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe There does not appear to be a hole in his shirt where the plate would be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253887) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:05 AM Author: Tan flickering selfie gaming laptop You can see a hole form if you slow down the first video (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253923) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:42 AM Author: Charismatic Hyperactive Spot https://x.com/TheTunniverse/status/1965899972328804823 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253888) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:46 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe Admittedly we are talking about a very small bullet, but I don’t see a hole in the T-shirt where the plate carrier would be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253893) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:02 AM Author: Charismatic Hyperactive Spot How do you explain the thing that looks exactly like a bullet go to his right shoulder and then appear to change directions and move toward his neck? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253911) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:04 AM Author: Thriller market the angle is upwards so everything is headed in that vector from your point of view and once it hits his entire body tenses faster than it ever has before and it all gets hard to see (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253918) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:21 AM Author: Charismatic Hyperactive Spot Doesn't explain shoulder bullet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253951) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:52 AM Author: Thriller market look at his cheeks moving there, I think he's just whiplashing from a pretty bad impact (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253901) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 9:25 AM Author: misanthropic rigpig coffee pot The idea of 30-06 ricocheting doesn’t track with me no matter what the video “shows.” Ricochets are more likely when there are Angles involved and you don’t hit something head on imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49254536) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 12:18 PM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe I tried to find a video of a bullet going off of a plate and could not get anything close. Then I went to armor videos and stats for battleships, and there is no way assuming it scales and even assuming a curved plate (which is a big assumption) and even assuming Kirk was wearing a cheap steel plate (an even bigger assumption) and that it was both steel and curved (another assumption). I don’t think it ricocheted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49255189) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 12:22 PM Author: Charismatic Hyperactive Spot In the frame by frame you can see how the bullet on his right shoulder turns and heads up to the neck area. There's literally a frame where it's right in between where you first see it appear and the cavitation wound. It literally travels visibly frame by frame. Watch it in slo mo and pause it when the bullet is in between the two areas.
You can agree that something that looks like a bullet appears on his right shoulder, moves towards the cavitation, and then disappears as his neck hole explodes. This is provable with the video evidence. It's indisputable. |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:03 AM Author: Hairraiser Carmine Kitchen "When you shoot things (hunting or people) odd things sometimes happen."
Okay boys, we're dealing with a poster who knows both about shooting whitetail does and humans. If you're smart you'll tread lightly around this fellow. |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:08 AM Author: Thriller market when looking at a bullet wound do you not think analogs are a useful point of reference? For instance I have shot a hog weighing about 250 lbs in the face and seen how that went, do you not think that is relevant information? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253931) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:13 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe Gee wiz, I wonder if a weapon that is effective at shooting soft skinned mammals between 100-300lbs like deer and hogs might have some other relevance …. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253938) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 12:19 PM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe Not bad if I do say so myself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49255193) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:38 AM Author: maize big kitty reading party 6.5 Creedmoor was the caliber used (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253877) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:41 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe Link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253883) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 4:12 AM Author: maize big kitty reading party The suspect is cornered right now. Rifle recovered already. Should be in custody in the next few hours. Will update as I’m updated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49254069) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 8:59 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe Thank. Update? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49254446) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:45 AM Author: stimulating brass theatre brethren arent Hornadys mostly subsonics?
fuck that is a pro caliber bullet if so |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:53 AM Author: Thriller market this is nonsense and it is sad some people might think it isn't, hornady makes bullets, random bullets, they are mostly popular with reloaders who aren't even buying cartridges, just the bullets, and there is no such thing as a "pro caliber" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253903) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:58 AM Author: stimulating brass theatre brethren huh? 6.5 Creedmor is the Militarys Special Operations Command newly adopted caliber
last time you used one? never heard of anyone using this outside of Alaska for huge game or competitive long range shooting competitons
It's literally a pro caliber bullet and its designed to go subsonic after 1300 yards and push cartridges to the limit |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:02 AM Author: Thriller market you said "aren't hornady's mostly subsonics" that is a nonsensical phrase, hornady's are all sorts of things and subsonic has nothing to do with 6.5 creedmoor |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 9:00 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49254448) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:04 AM Author: stimulating brass theatre brethren https://www.twz.com/land/secret-service-eyeing-new-6-5mm-designated-marksman-rifles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253921) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:06 AM Author: stimulating brass theatre brethren something like this most likely if trained sniper
https://www.horizonarmsresearch.com/product/har-sniper-rifle-system-6-5-creedmoor/ |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:45 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe YouTube is suppressing all the gun guy videos which are usually the best analysis of these things. So annoying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253891) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:48 AM Author: supple olive chapel dragon looked like a hunting rifle to me. totally knocked the shit out of his body in addition to leaving a huge hole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253896) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 1:55 AM Author: Thriller market for a guy to walk away the most likely scenario is a bolt action with a short barrel and a folding stock, you could store that in a very regular bag in about 3 seconds and not worry about casings, I think .300 blackout would make a lot of sense but it really could be anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253905) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 9:13 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe One shot lends to bolt action or, you know, he saw the hit and said that did it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49254491) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:10 AM Author: Hairraiser Carmine Kitchen Gun nerds ITT talking about the particular bullet. It's not a super-long shot. Any rifle with a decent shooter would do.
More interesting is how he concealed the gun and disappeared. Makes me suspect a short barrel and a folding stock, but even still he'd need to be carrying a bag. Most likely Mossad or Russia. |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 9:11 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe You can take an AR into upper and lower and put it in a back pack/computer bag in a few seconds. A lot of semi auto rifles are similar. A bolt action, not so much although I am sure there are those out there. Folding stock only matters if you don’t take it apart.
Analysis is a was the shot was more like 144 yards, not 200 yards. That’s a chip shot (ironically or not the same distance as the TRUMP shot). jeffostroff on youtube (the only gun guy video I found). |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:54 AM Author: scarlet angry double fault It was .300 blackout IMO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49253998) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 3:50 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe Why? Because you don’t think there was a supersonic crack? Hard to tell from the videos and shit audio but I think there was one, but a 300 blackout and a can (silencer) would be on my shortlist of things to use.
I NEED MY YOUTUBE GUN AUTISTS TO ANALYZE THIS |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 9:16 AM Author: misanthropic rigpig coffee pot It was a .30-06 according to the ATF poast. The bullet drop is what got him in the neck imo. Over 2x the muzzle energy of .223 iirc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49254503) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 10:10 AM Author: razzle-dazzle menage puppy He may have been trying for the chest. Since he was shooting downhill from an elevated position bullet drop is less. Intentionally trying to make a head or neck shot is not a great idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49254747) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 10:16 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe And who knows how well sited the gun actually was. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49254785) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 12:20 PM Author: misanthropic rigpig coffee pot Imo it kind of is a good idea. His Head was wide due to skull expansion. And the head is at the center of the body and the shooter didn’t sight in perfectly. He doesn’t know he’s exactly 200 yards away without a rangefinder. So an indeterminate amount of bullet drop puts him at center of mass or a neck shot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49255197) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 12:50 PM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe Google maps makes range finding irrelevant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49255325) |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 10:12 AM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe A .30-06 Mauser “imported” talk about a gun that would be very difficult to trace ….
A random hunting rifle initially sold before any records, maybe never went though an FFL ….
Maybe a model 66? |
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Date: September 11th, 2025 12:50 PM Author: Razzmatazz Giraffe Seems from the pic it is modern. Looks like an M18. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5772142&forum_id=2).#49255328) |