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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:00 PM Author: citrine narrow-minded stag film marketing idea http://amlawdaily.typepad.com/amlawdaily/2009/04/transcript-lies.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512042) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:08 PM Author: Chocolate mediation step-uncle's house this cheater is in business school now, lolz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512091) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:09 PM Author: Brilliant Irradiated Mad Cow Disease probably where he belongs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512098) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:09 PM Author: Magenta spectacular office voyeur I came here to post this. Jesus Christ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512101) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:08 PM Author: appetizing piazza Fails out of med school, gets crappy grades at law school, fails bar...
Yet he managed to do excellent work in biglaw. This should put to rest the notion that biglaw word requires any significant level of intelligence. |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:09 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Round Eye Tanning Salon grades are the best measure of intelligence (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512102) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:12 PM Author: appetizing piazza Is that what you tell yourself to feel better about having attended a TTT LS? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512127) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2009 11:27 AM Author: Filthy whorehouse laser beams My god you're stupid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11520709) |
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Date: April 24th, 2009 11:04 PM Author: bearded factory reset button are you really this stupid? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11538061) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:09 PM Author: laughsome fanboi people who are hurt "The resume ended up in the hands of Michael Sweeney, a partner at Sidley, and Sweeney asked Levi how someone with Friedman's grades got in the door at Sidley."
awesome...thats a lot of C's, I though everyone at Chicago was a legal genius.
http://www.iardc.org/08CH0032CM.html
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:20 PM Author: citrine narrow-minded stag film marketing idea RIGOR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512196) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:25 PM Author: supple french juggernaut station what is Elements of Law? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512238) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:18 PM Author: Carnelian temple faggot firefighter That's an impressive number of C's. Maybe he was pulling a Tucker Max. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512617) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 7:46 PM Author: Ruddy Heaven "I though everyone at Chicago was a legal genius"
Terrible flame, just terrible |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 8:39 PM Author: Hairraiser tan pocket flask idea he suggested Impressive. Especially that C- (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11513760) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2009 10:10 AM Author: Fighting Scarlet Pisswyrm Lodge I would kill myself if that was my transcript. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11520262) |
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Date: April 24th, 2009 11:04 PM Author: adventurous transparent den Credited. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11538063) |
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Date: April 24th, 2009 11:06 PM Author: ocher internet-worthy really tough guy Subject: Indeed. He sucked. Although I was confused by the "B" and "C" shit. How did that happen? The grading scale was numeric, you know? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11538076) |
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Date: April 24th, 2009 11:10 PM Author: bearded factory reset button well this guy > you, then. he turned a killself-worthy transcript into one that got him an offer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11538110) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:12 PM Author: cyan affirmative action legal warrant the lesson is that if you're going to doctor transcripts, only do so if it's to a firm/judge where you have a chance of getting in anyways.
Had this douchebag sent his doctored resume to Kaye Scholer or some other BS firm and gotten hired, then tried to lateral later with his real grades, no one would have ever known. |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:27 PM Author: pontificating theater i wonder if someone with straight C's would have a shot at a crappy firm in the good times. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512667) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2009 2:28 PM Author: Stubborn School I don't follow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11522360) |
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Date: April 25th, 2009 12:21 AM Author: Plum filthpig area Uh, he did get in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11538715) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:29 PM Author: Histrionic hairless hell XOXO says that Cs in law school are internet myth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512682) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:30 PM Author: pontificating theater MFE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512687) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:32 PM Author: Histrionic hairless hell Do you go to UChicago? Break down the curve by %ages please. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512707) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:37 PM Author: pontificating theater i don't go to chicago, but from what i understand--by looking at the post directly below which does exactly what you ask--it goes something like this:
180: A
174-179: B
<174: being a virgin faggot bio major with a 2.9 GPA who has attended not one but two shitty schools only to end up, to the surprise of no one, living in his parents' basement while using dad's homeowner's insurance policy to defend against a lawsuit that was filed because the only contribution he ever made to the world was random defamatory posts on an internet message board.
a Chicago student would probably be able to tell you better, that's just my take from talking to UC students.
HTH |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:38 PM Author: Carnelian temple faggot firefighter 178 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512738) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:39 PM Author: 180 headpube nce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512742) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:40 PM Author: Know-it-all Nighttime Business Firm dayum. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512751) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:46 PM Author: deranged talented church messiness Speaking of our homeowner's insurance, our premiums have skyrocketed!
I'm taking it out of your allowance :D. |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:47 PM Author: glittery brindle native 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512795) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 7:43 PM Author: Chocolate mediation step-uncle's house 178 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11513219) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 8:52 PM Author: citrine narrow-minded stag film marketing idea POTD (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11513867) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2009 2:27 PM Author: cyan affirmative action legal warrant AT:D (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11522343) |
Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:24 PM Author: comical painfully honest orchestra pit incel serious question: what does it take to get a C- at Chicago??? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512226) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:08 PM Author: Motley dead church building The curve goes something like this: the number of As (180+) must approximately equal the number of Cs (174 and below). When you realize that about ~15 people per class of 90 earn an A, you figure that about ~15 earned a C, and 60 students are somewhere in the very loose 174-179 area.
Sidley's cut-off was 177, which is entirely reasonable, IMO. Even the best students get median-pwnd sometimes.
Considering all that, his fabricated grades were top third material, and his real grades suggest that the guy probably didn't know how to take a law school exam. If you hit the big issues and perform sustained analysis of the facts, 177/178 is usually right around the corner (but by no means assured at a school like Chi).
The more interesting query, IMO, is this one: how did he manage to succeed for so many years at a BigLaw firm where his credentials suggest failure? Are grades unpredictive in general, or merely in his case? |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:43 PM Author: Bateful blathering corn cake Translation: I have median grades at Chicago and I'm desperately trying to convince myself I'm not mediocre.
just joking though. thanks for the info. |
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Date: April 24th, 2009 10:43 PM Author: ocher internet-worthy really tough guy Subject: C's happen on the regular. Appellate clerk. C in property. Just saying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11537926) |
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Date: April 24th, 2009 10:54 PM Author: copper keepsake machete set dayum. is this common? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11537992) |
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Date: April 24th, 2009 11:02 PM Author: ocher internet-worthy really tough guy It happens. Three sets of exams a year. Up to four tests. Most people have 1-3 outlier grades and end up in the 176-178 band. Firms and judges, shockingly, don't care. My roommate is still at Skadden. He had a 174 average (and yes, he's white. Oh, xoxo. I always need to add that). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11538043) |
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Date: April 25th, 2009 12:02 AM Author: Motley dead church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11538589) |
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Date: April 25th, 2009 12:47 AM Author: ocher internet-worthy really tough guy Ah, yes. Helmholz was my "C." It sucked. But elements and the other classes made up for it in the long run. Sweet man, in retrospect. Difficult class, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11538891) |
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Date: April 25th, 2009 12:58 AM Author: Motley dead church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11538970) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2009 2:55 PM Author: Abusive pungent reading party haunted graveyard He probably never went to class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11522619) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:24 PM Author: lake marvelous wrinkle The sad part about this is that it shows you how pointless grades are in general in predicting the "success" of an entry level associate doing nonsense doc review of copying and pasting. This guy was probably dead last in his class at Chicago, and did fine at his firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512229) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:25 PM Author: mauve antidepressant drug becky he did fail the bar twice and was let go from skadden (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512233) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:29 PM Author: lake marvelous wrinkle Yes, but not for performance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512264) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:41 PM Author: pontificating theater if they'd thought he was a valuable associate who just caught bad luck on the bar exam, i'd imagine they'd have kept him around. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512363) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:42 PM Author: Turquoise theater stage Not at that salary if you fail the bar twice. That is the standard ejection point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512370) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:42 PM Author: cyan affirmative action legal warrant it's usually firm policy to let someone go after two failures on the bar regardless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512374) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 8:42 PM Author: Light excitant university He was also a restructuring attorney at a time when there was little bankrupcy work so he was in all likelihood doing litigation doc review. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11513780) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:41 PM Author: Turquoise theater stage Race? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512365) |
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Date: April 24th, 2009 10:42 PM Author: ocher internet-worthy really tough guy Subject: He's white. And jewish. Which I find hilarious as one of my girlfriends from U of C was black and has a 178 average. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11537925) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:43 PM Author: Histrionic hairless hell Sadly, Friedman knew his real grades wouldn't get him into Sidley; he faked the transcripts because "he felt he needed to work at a premier law firm to confirm he was successful."
Typical striver, I bet he posts here. |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:45 PM Author: Turquoise theater stage I wonder if he lives in his mom's basement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512394) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 5:50 PM Author: Vivacious chapel puppy no, only strivers post here, someone who lives in their mom's basement has stopped caring about what everyone else thinks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512432) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:31 PM Author: twinkling swashbuckling locale you even fail at mocking :D. god you're such a worthless putz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512693) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:07 PM Author: Turquoise theater stage You realize of <> have? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512539) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:30 PM Author: yapping pea-brained ticket booth take away -> Sidley has a grade cutoff of median at UChicago (article mentions its 77, which is now 177) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512688) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 6:38 PM Author: 180 headpube titcr, the only important information in this article is Sidley's GPA cutoff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11512736) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 8:08 PM Author: laughsome fanboi people who are hurt http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/10178-ny-loren-friedman-1014410.html
checks out fine on avvo.com |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 8:44 PM Author: Turquoise theater stage LOL. Emory grads are such strivers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11513796) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2009 8:53 PM Author: Bistre multi-colored dog poop This guy got off really easy in my opinion, especially ITE when he likely couldn't hold a firm job anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11513870) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2009 10:26 AM Author: Mildly autistic property sound barrier Wow. I actually know this guy from back when he was at Emory. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11520315) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2009 11:22 AM Author: laughsome fanboi people who are hurt no shit....do tell sounds like he may be tarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11520672) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2009 11:30 AM Author: Mildly autistic property sound barrier I only met him a few times through a friend, whose older brother was good friends with him at Emory. He seemed like a smart and nice guy; no alarm bells went off during my interactions with him. But I do recall my friend saying that Loren was always insecure about his intelligence and felt the need to constantly prove himself, which is why he went to medical school.
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Date: April 23rd, 2009 10:32 AM Author: rose pit background story Blatant Penn trolling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11520350) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2009 2:23 PM Author: citrine narrow-minded stag film marketing idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11522306) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2009 2:42 PM Author: Stubborn School "The resume ended up in the hands of Michael Sweeney, a partner at Sidley, and Sweeney asked Levi how someone with Friedman's grades got in the door at Sidley."
Lulz. A partner at my firm will someday ask this about my transcript. Fortunately for me, the answer will be that my first year grades were a lot higher than my 2l/3l grades - not that I doctored it. |
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Date: April 25th, 2009 12:06 AM Author: Greedy slap-happy site *yawn* law firms are full of ppl like this. i know someone presently at curtis-mallet who's committed tax evasion the past 3 years and slept with her married supervisor at her previous job (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11538610) |
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Date: April 25th, 2009 12:24 AM Author: Plum filthpig area anybody else find it creepy that the sidley dood hung on to the transcripts for 5+ years and then compared notes with the other dood years later? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=982050&forum_id=2,#11538737) |
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