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How long before I am unemployable forever as an attorney

Well I guess I could always go solo or do doc review. But n...
concupiscible corn cake
  09/02/10
If you are a 2009 grad: Why don't you just go over to the l...
razzmatazz toilet seat shitlib
  09/04/10
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Grizzly Cerebral Indian Lodge
  09/05/10
cr
exciting forum
  09/05/10
10 more months
Magenta passionate step-uncle's house knife
  09/02/10
Why 10 months?
concupiscible corn cake
  09/02/10
Are you rounding up, down, or being exact?
Disrespectful Exhilarant Piazza Pistol
  09/02/10
Exact. My last day was the end of 2009.
concupiscible corn cake
  09/02/10
Some time last week.
Flesh up-to-no-good sandwich
  09/04/10
you're done. the flow of new unspoiled lawyers has continued
Chocolate Cheese-eating Center
  09/02/10
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concupiscible corn cake
  09/03/10
Get a job working for a solo and work your way up. I was a ...
idiotic vivacious police squad potus
  09/04/10
Which law school did the associate attend?
odious mint area
  09/04/10
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outnumbered new version legend
  09/05/10
WTF sort of work (other than insurance defense shitlaw) only...
Adulterous bonkers striped hyena
  09/05/10
once you get to be a senior associate, whenever that is
Dead lavender principal's office
  09/04/10
A) Look at the Feds. They're hiring. You can get a job as a ...
scarlet nighttime depressive office
  09/05/10
B) sounds very good. How do you learn?
Judgmental bawdyhouse
  09/05/10
First, you move to an area that actually uses lawyers to do ...
Adulterous bonkers striped hyena
  09/05/10
"A) Look at the Feds. They're hiring. You can get a job...
flickering honey-headed box office mad cow disease
  09/05/10
they're EXTREMELY short on military civilians and in paramil...
scarlet nighttime depressive office
  09/05/10
Where would I apply? And what do these people exactly do?
Judgmental bawdyhouse
  09/05/10
1) USAJOBS 2) Somewhere in between compliance and a contr...
scarlet nighttime depressive office
  09/05/10
I go to a T6 and am above median. Still not competitive? D...
Judgmental bawdyhouse
  09/05/10
Aside from DoJ Honors, the Fed'l Gov't rates you on experien...
scarlet nighttime depressive office
  09/05/10
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Grizzly Cerebral Indian Lodge
  09/05/10
Where can I find direct AUSA openings? I'm trying to cler...
Judgmental bawdyhouse
  09/05/10
.... Date: September 5th, 2010 1:58 PM Author: Guvnor ...
scarlet nighttime depressive office
  09/05/10
Thanks. Sorry for the dim-witted comment.
Judgmental bawdyhouse
  09/05/10
don't be too picky with agencies. apply for AUSA and contrac...
scarlet nighttime depressive office
  09/05/10
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Grizzly Cerebral Indian Lodge
  09/05/10
It generally takes longer than 140, TBF. More like 6 months....
scarlet nighttime depressive office
  09/05/10
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Grizzly Cerebral Indian Lodge
  09/05/10
TBH, I was applying to at least 25 jobs/wk Did you upload...
scarlet nighttime depressive office
  09/05/10
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Grizzly Cerebral Indian Lodge
  09/05/10
Did you apply at multiple grade levels? A lot of times they ...
scarlet nighttime depressive office
  09/05/10
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Grizzly Cerebral Indian Lodge
  09/05/10
I applied to DOJ Honors. I'm still in school. I would ...
Judgmental bawdyhouse
  09/05/10
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Grizzly Cerebral Indian Lodge
  09/05/10
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Grizzly Cerebral Indian Lodge
  09/05/10
TITCR
scarlet nighttime depressive office
  09/05/10
FBI is hiring too, but check the physical requirements and...
scarlet nighttime depressive office
  09/05/10
I just checked, you have another 45 minutes. I'd hurry.
trip canary resort useless brakes
  09/05/10
LOL 180^180 BETTER HURRY UP 23 MINUTES LEFT LOL
Hideous patrolman address
  09/05/10
NO PRESSURE. Better hit that 300 GAME on stroock bowl her...
trip canary resort useless brakes
  09/05/10
HOPE HE ENJOYS DLA PIPER
Hideous patrolman address
  09/05/10
In the IT DEPARTMENT.
trip canary resort useless brakes
  09/05/10
:( Sorry man. Have you considered sales?
trip canary resort useless brakes
  09/05/10
lol at being unemployed for 9 months. you could have TOTALLY...
filthy cracking turdskin
  09/05/10


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Date: September 2nd, 2010 9:02 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake

Well I guess I could always go solo or do doc review. But not counting those as options.

I've been unemployed 8 months now. How long before (if not already) I become completely unemployable as an attorney?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15951046)



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Date: September 4th, 2010 11:55 PM
Author: razzmatazz toilet seat shitlib

If you are a 2009 grad:

Why don't you just go over to the local small law office and ask to do intake a few hours a week to alleviate some boredom. You might get some little courtroom things as a result (which might be a new thing for you), and possibly an entry-level atty job offer too (which you don't have to take, after all), but most importantly, you'll be moving forward and getting some experience rather than just sitting still. Plus, seeing all the hardup cases might help your perspective and lighten your mood some.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15967507)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 9:58 AM
Author: Grizzly Cerebral Indian Lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15968974)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 1:35 PM
Author: exciting forum

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970038)



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Date: September 2nd, 2010 9:13 PM
Author: Magenta passionate step-uncle's house knife

10 more months

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15951147)



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Date: September 2nd, 2010 9:13 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake

Why 10 months?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15951149)



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Date: September 2nd, 2010 9:14 PM
Author: Disrespectful Exhilarant Piazza Pistol

Are you rounding up, down, or being exact?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15951154)



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Date: September 2nd, 2010 9:15 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake

Exact. My last day was the end of 2009.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15951170)



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Date: September 4th, 2010 11:56 PM
Author: Flesh up-to-no-good sandwich

Some time last week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15967515)



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Date: September 2nd, 2010 9:14 PM
Author: Chocolate Cheese-eating Center

you're done. the flow of new unspoiled lawyers has continued

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15951161)



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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:00 AM
Author: concupiscible corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15952866)



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Date: September 4th, 2010 11:27 PM
Author: idiotic vivacious police squad potus

Get a job working for a solo and work your way up. I was a solo and I hired an associate for $12.50/hour. Fast forward 6 months and the associate makes $20/hour. I make money off the associate because they bill out at $125/hour.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15967326)



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Date: September 4th, 2010 11:28 PM
Author: odious mint area

Which law school did the associate attend?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15967334)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 4:17 AM
Author: outnumbered new version legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15968738)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 3:33 PM
Author: Adulterous bonkers striped hyena

WTF sort of work (other than insurance defense shitlaw) only pays $125/hour?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970790)



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Date: September 4th, 2010 11:28 PM
Author: Dead lavender principal's office

once you get to be a senior associate, whenever that is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15967329)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 10:27 AM
Author: scarlet nighttime depressive office

A) Look at the Feds. They're hiring. You can get a job as a contract specialist even if you can't get a job as a lawyer. The pay is good and it's in a field closely related to law

B) Start doing wills and real estate closings. Don't know how? Pick up the Nolo book on it, bro or work with a shitlaw guy for a year or two like napoleone said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15969089)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 1:30 PM
Author: Judgmental bawdyhouse

B) sounds very good. How do you learn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15969996)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 3:34 PM
Author: Adulterous bonkers striped hyena

First, you move to an area that actually uses lawyers to do real estate closings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970799)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 1:41 PM
Author: flickering honey-headed box office mad cow disease

"A) Look at the Feds. They're hiring. You can get a job as a contract specialist even if you can't get a job as a lawyer. The pay is good and it's in a field closely related to law "

good fucking luck. they get hundreds of experienced attorney resumes for this shit. not saying he shouldn't apply to them, but don't hold your breath.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970072)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 1:46 PM
Author: scarlet nighttime depressive office

they're EXTREMELY short on military civilians and in paramilitary Fed'l agencies. If you have a squeaky clean record (e.g. nothing besides parking/speeding tickets and no arrests or convictions) you'll have a job inside of 6months if you apply to at least 20 agencies or so.

Huge amounts of atty's are instantly disqualified for arrests when they were like 19.

About 10 interviewees/position. About 100 resumes. Not terrible odds, esp if you're military friendly (dem or republican). A lot of lawyers are *HUGZ 4 TERORISM* douchebags, too, and are instantly disqualified.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970092)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 1:57 PM
Author: Judgmental bawdyhouse

Where would I apply? And what do these people exactly do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970150)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 1:58 PM
Author: scarlet nighttime depressive office

1) USAJOBS

2) Somewhere in between compliance and a contract attorney. Garden-variety bureacrats, legal services side of things, but not generally attorneys. It'll pay better than anything else you'll find. TBF you probably won't be competitive enough for an att'y job due to all the out of work attorneys. You can probably spin it as a legal job down the road.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970157)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 2:06 PM
Author: Judgmental bawdyhouse

I go to a T6 and am above median. Still not competitive? Damn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970195)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 2:08 PM
Author: scarlet nighttime depressive office

Aside from DoJ Honors, the Fed'l Gov't rates you on experience, not where you graduated from.

According to Uncle Sam - Cooley + 3yrs exp > T6 + 0 exp

You probably won't get DoJ Honors. Many DoJ att'y positions are excepted service and are often not even listed.

There are some AUSA positions, but you will likely have to relocate for any that you could actually get. In metro areas, the positions tend to be highly competitve.

Apply anyway. It's free.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970206)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 2:19 PM
Author: Grizzly Cerebral Indian Lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970275)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 3:10 PM
Author: Judgmental bawdyhouse

Where can I find direct AUSA openings?

I'm trying to clerk but the pickings are starting to look slim. I haven't even heard back from SSC positions. And my firm cold-offered me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970604)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 3:11 PM
Author: scarlet nighttime depressive office

....

Date: September 5th, 2010 1:58 PM

Author: Guvnor

1) USAJOBS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970612)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 3:12 PM
Author: Judgmental bawdyhouse

Thanks. Sorry for the dim-witted comment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970616)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 3:13 PM
Author: scarlet nighttime depressive office

don't be too picky with agencies. apply for AUSA and contract specialist positions. along with anything else you're eligible for.

Look at everything GS-9 and up.

Like I said, if you don't hate America, and swallow your pride at working for a less prestigious agency, you can find a pretty decent job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970626)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 3:14 PM
Author: Grizzly Cerebral Indian Lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970635)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 3:18 PM
Author: scarlet nighttime depressive office

It generally takes longer than 140, TBF. More like 6 months.

I got my job off of there, fwiw. So did some other posters. It's legit. A lot of aspie america-hating poasters like to complain when they don't find a job after writing their application in crayon and denouncing blacks and age of consent laws in their interviews.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970671)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 3:19 PM
Author: Grizzly Cerebral Indian Lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970690)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 3:22 PM
Author: scarlet nighttime depressive office

TBH, I was applying to at least 25 jobs/wk

Did you upload supporting documentation? Call to confirm receipt? They lose shit all the time at OPM. They're pretty incompetent.

Are you just applying for atty jobs? Or other legal services, too?

Check for jobs in your state and municipal gov't too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970706)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 3:27 PM
Author: Grizzly Cerebral Indian Lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970747)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 3:30 PM
Author: scarlet nighttime depressive office

Did you apply at multiple grade levels? A lot of times they list at multiple levels but only plan to hire at one of them.

Oh also, FBI is hiring a shitload of people. If you can pass the physical and the polygraph, apply for that. They love lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970769)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 3:35 PM
Author: Grizzly Cerebral Indian Lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970813)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 3:16 PM
Author: Judgmental bawdyhouse

I applied to DOJ Honors. I'm still in school.

I would very gladly swallow my pride. I never expected to be doing this out of my T6, but here I am. Thanks, ITE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970660)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 3:13 PM
Author: Grizzly Cerebral Indian Lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970623)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 2:10 PM
Author: Grizzly Cerebral Indian Lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970218)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 2:11 PM
Author: scarlet nighttime depressive office

TITCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970225)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 2:14 PM
Author: scarlet nighttime depressive office

FBI is hiring too, but check the physical requirements and how long they're in Quantico now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970246)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 1:12 PM
Author: trip canary resort useless brakes

I just checked, you have another 45 minutes.

I'd hurry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15969858)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 1:34 PM
Author: Hideous patrolman address

LOL 180^180 BETTER HURRY UP 23 MINUTES LEFT LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970030)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 1:36 PM
Author: trip canary resort useless brakes

NO PRESSURE.

Better hit that 300 GAME on stroock bowl here soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970044)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 1:36 PM
Author: Hideous patrolman address

HOPE HE ENJOYS DLA PIPER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970048)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 1:37 PM
Author: trip canary resort useless brakes

In the IT DEPARTMENT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970050)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 2:11 PM
Author: trip canary resort useless brakes

:(

Sorry man. Have you considered sales?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970231)



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Date: September 5th, 2010 3:31 PM
Author: filthy cracking turdskin

lol at being unemployed for 9 months. you could have TOTALLY gone to a legal temp agency and worked intermittently during those 9 months, but, INSTEAD, you REFUSED, and now you are GOING to pay for IT. lazy motherfucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1412919&forum_id=2,#15970774)