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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Amethyst indirect expression
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
abnormal big friendly grandma
  12/16/25
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Amethyst indirect expression
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Pontificating deep kitty cat
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
abnormal big friendly grandma
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Pontificating deep kitty cat
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
abnormal big friendly grandma
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Pontificating deep kitty cat
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Amethyst indirect expression
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
abnormal big friendly grandma
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Pontificating deep kitty cat
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
abnormal big friendly grandma
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Pontificating deep kitty cat
  12/17/25
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Amethyst indirect expression
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abnormal big friendly grandma
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
ebony self-absorbed heaven french chef
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
abnormal big friendly grandma
  12/16/25
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ebony self-absorbed heaven french chef
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
flatulent yellow hunting ground masturbator
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
abnormal big friendly grandma
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
rough-skinned charcoal space
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
abnormal big friendly grandma
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
floppy house
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abnormal big friendly grandma
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Amethyst indirect expression
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
marvelous useless brakes goyim
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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abnormal big friendly grandma
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marvelous useless brakes goyim
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Amethyst indirect expression
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Amethyst indirect expression
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Pontificating deep kitty cat
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Amethyst indirect expression



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: abnormal big friendly grandma

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Amethyst indirect expression

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Pontificating deep kitty cat

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: abnormal big friendly grandma

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Pontificating deep kitty cat

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: abnormal big friendly grandma

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Pontificating deep kitty cat

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Amethyst indirect expression

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: abnormal big friendly grandma

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Pontificating deep kitty cat

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: abnormal big friendly grandma

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Pontificating deep kitty cat

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Amethyst indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: abnormal big friendly grandma



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: ebony self-absorbed heaven french chef

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: abnormal big friendly grandma

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: ebony self-absorbed heaven french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516177)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: flatulent yellow hunting ground masturbator

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: abnormal big friendly grandma

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: rough-skinned charcoal space

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: abnormal big friendly grandma

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: floppy house

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: abnormal big friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Amethyst indirect expression



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: marvelous useless brakes goyim

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Multi-colored smoky laser beams hall

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: abnormal big friendly grandma



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: marvelous useless brakes goyim



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Amethyst indirect expression



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Amethyst indirect expression



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Pontificating deep kitty cat

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Stubborn aquamarine bbw home

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515738)