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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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stimulating digit ratio haunted graveyard
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
boyish public bath
  12/16/25
18000
stimulating digit ratio haunted graveyard
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
histrionic mildly autistic depressive
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
boyish public bath
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
histrionic mildly autistic depressive
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
boyish public bath
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
histrionic mildly autistic depressive
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
stimulating digit ratio haunted graveyard
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
boyish public bath
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
histrionic mildly autistic depressive
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
boyish public bath
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
histrionic mildly autistic depressive
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stimulating digit ratio haunted graveyard
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boyish public bath
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
chartreuse trust fund
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
boyish public bath
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chartreuse trust fund
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
amethyst double fault gunner
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
boyish public bath
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
dashing cuck
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
boyish public bath
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Fear-inspiring theater stage
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boyish public bath
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stimulating digit ratio haunted graveyard
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i love scholarship
domesticated stag film pistol
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Violet internet-worthy persian striped hyena
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boyish public bath
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domesticated stag film pistol
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stimulating digit ratio haunted graveyard
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stimulating digit ratio haunted graveyard
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
histrionic mildly autistic depressive
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
submissive deer antler
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: stimulating digit ratio haunted graveyard



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: boyish public bath

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: stimulating digit ratio haunted graveyard

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: histrionic mildly autistic depressive

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: boyish public bath

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: histrionic mildly autistic depressive

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: boyish public bath

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: histrionic mildly autistic depressive

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: stimulating digit ratio haunted graveyard

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: boyish public bath

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: histrionic mildly autistic depressive

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: boyish public bath

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: histrionic mildly autistic depressive

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: stimulating digit ratio haunted graveyard



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: boyish public bath



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: chartreuse trust fund

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: boyish public bath

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: chartreuse trust fund



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: amethyst double fault gunner

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: boyish public bath

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: dashing cuck

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: boyish public bath

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring theater stage

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: boyish public bath



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: stimulating digit ratio haunted graveyard



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: domesticated stag film pistol

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Violet internet-worthy persian striped hyena

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: boyish public bath



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: domesticated stag film pistol



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: stimulating digit ratio haunted graveyard



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: stimulating digit ratio haunted graveyard



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: histrionic mildly autistic depressive

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: submissive deer antler

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515738)