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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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trip menage double fault
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
cruel-hearted chestnut state
  12/16/25
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trip menage double fault
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Nighttime Disgusting Really Tough Guy
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
cruel-hearted chestnut state
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Nighttime Disgusting Really Tough Guy
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
cruel-hearted chestnut state
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Nighttime Disgusting Really Tough Guy
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
trip menage double fault
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
cruel-hearted chestnut state
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Nighttime Disgusting Really Tough Guy
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
cruel-hearted chestnut state
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Nighttime Disgusting Really Tough Guy
  12/17/25
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trip menage double fault
  12/17/25
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cruel-hearted chestnut state
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
appetizing sticky ratface
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
cruel-hearted chestnut state
  12/16/25
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appetizing sticky ratface
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
black spot
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
cruel-hearted chestnut state
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
fighting shitlib
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
cruel-hearted chestnut state
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
aphrodisiac maroon locale liquid oxygen
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cruel-hearted chestnut state
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trip menage double fault
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
razzle know-it-all place of business
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Hyperventilating Abode
  12/17/25
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cruel-hearted chestnut state
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razzle know-it-all place of business
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trip menage double fault
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trip menage double fault
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Nighttime Disgusting Really Tough Guy
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
embarrassed to the bone becky
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: trip menage double fault



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: cruel-hearted chestnut state

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: trip menage double fault

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Nighttime Disgusting Really Tough Guy

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: cruel-hearted chestnut state

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Nighttime Disgusting Really Tough Guy

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: cruel-hearted chestnut state

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Nighttime Disgusting Really Tough Guy

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: trip menage double fault

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: cruel-hearted chestnut state

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Nighttime Disgusting Really Tough Guy

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: cruel-hearted chestnut state

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Nighttime Disgusting Really Tough Guy

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: trip menage double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: cruel-hearted chestnut state



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: appetizing sticky ratface

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: cruel-hearted chestnut state

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: appetizing sticky ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516177)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: black spot

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: cruel-hearted chestnut state

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: fighting shitlib

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: cruel-hearted chestnut state

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: aphrodisiac maroon locale liquid oxygen

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: cruel-hearted chestnut state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: trip menage double fault



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: razzle know-it-all place of business

i love scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515767)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Hyperventilating Abode

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: cruel-hearted chestnut state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516412)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: razzle know-it-all place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516560)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: trip menage double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516683)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: trip menage double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516681)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Nighttime Disgusting Really Tough Guy

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone becky

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515738)