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The legitimacy of the Catholic church stems from actual events, not words, moron

No one was saying "oh let's write down some doctrine an...
glassy effete location
  05/11/25
you are chinese
Spruce Filthy Half-breed Dingle Berry
  05/12/25
if there's one things human beings are good at its workin...
lemon submissive house
  05/11/25
You're welcome to revisit the debates people were having at ...
glassy effete location
  05/11/25
the papacy was a last ditch effort to control the west that ...
Irate cheese-eating parlor puppy
  05/11/25
what part of the keys of the kingdom of heaven and apostolic...
Marvelous Magenta Hunting Ground Property
  05/11/25
Apostolic succession is the worst justification for founding...
glassy effete location
  05/11/25
this is not accurate. The pope in its current form came out ...
beady-eyed alcoholic coffee pot native
  05/11/25
How are you supposed to amplify the doctrine if every commun...
glassy effete location
  05/11/25
i dont know what "amplify the doctrine" means. ...
beady-eyed alcoholic coffee pot native
  05/11/25
Do you really think Constantine became a devout believer? I ...
glassy effete location
  05/11/25
how is that an argument for papal supremacy and universal ju...
beady-eyed alcoholic coffee pot native
  05/11/25
Why are you trying to change the topic of the discussion in ...
glassy effete location
  05/11/25
"Some of these communities started doing and believing ...
beady-eyed alcoholic coffee pot native
  05/11/25
We didn't even have a New Testament until about 400AD. Until...
glassy effete location
  05/11/25
Thank God the Pope ordered Irenaeus to write some books
beady-eyed alcoholic coffee pot native
  05/11/25
You hate the Bible we get it
glassy effete location
  05/11/25
lmao I kissed the bible this morning
beady-eyed alcoholic coffee pot native
  05/11/25
Wow, I'm growing more impressed with your intellect by the m...
glassy effete location
  05/11/25
lol at Christianity being about intellect. Go to church and ...
beady-eyed alcoholic coffee pot native
  05/11/25
Hang on, let me forget every history book ever written about...
glassy effete location
  05/11/25
hey bro ur bread looks a lil flat
beady-eyed alcoholic coffee pot native
  05/11/25
ironically prots are adulterers believing the logos = sacred...
Dark masturbator headpube
  05/12/25
Sacred scripture but they never read it.
glassy effete location
  05/12/25
lol @ this thread being this long with no mention of ecumeni...
brindle idea he suggested
  11/04/25
Or the great schism …
Misunderstood background story
  11/04/25
Ljl
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Date: May 11th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: glassy effete location

No one was saying "oh let's write down some doctrine and cram it down everyone's throat, btw let's borrow some political ideas from the emperor and do it in Rome."

What actually happened was that christian communities formed all over, with no central authority or anyone telling them what to do. Some of these communities started doing and believing wild things, others weren't so sure. This went on for CENTURIES before we had The Pope.

At the same time, they all considered themselves Christian and understood the story of Jesus, so it wasn't entirely random. It had to have all begun with people speaking authoritatively about the life of Jesus, because there's no other way you could have Christians living 1000 miles apart who understood the story the same way. There was no Bible at this time, and no one could read.

All you have to do is figure out HOW that happened, WHO was spreading the message early on, and WHAT they said to everyone, before the ensuing chaos. If you think you've got that figured out, there's your Catholic church. The end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922566)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 4:22 PM
Author: Spruce Filthy Half-breed Dingle Berry

you are chinese

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48924750)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 10:43 PM
Author: lemon submissive house

if there's one things human beings are good at

its working together on some huge constructive thing as a large secretive group and all coming correct about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922789)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: glassy effete location

You're welcome to revisit the debates people were having at the time. None of it is "hidden knowledge." If someone took the time to write a letter and send it to a bunch of churches, we have it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922807)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Irate cheese-eating parlor puppy

the papacy was a last ditch effort to control the west that devolved into one city and bunch of warlords, frankly if charlemagne hadn't granted it legitimacy the whole thing would probably be gone by now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922799)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Marvelous Magenta Hunting Ground Property

what part of the keys of the kingdom of heaven and apostolic succession do you poli sci shitheads not understand? sometimes peoples' reasons for believing or doing things are, in fact, their stated reasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922808)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: glassy effete location

Apostolic succession is the worst justification for founding a church except for all the other justifications.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922811)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic coffee pot native

this is not accurate. The pope in its current form came out of a self-interested power grab by Rome. The churches were in relatively strong agreement through the 1st millennium, and Rome was used by general agreement to resolve disputes in an advisory capacity. Over time, Rome began to see itself as having de jure authority, which the other churches never accepted, and will never accept.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922810)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 10:51 PM
Author: glassy effete location

How are you supposed to amplify the doctrine if every community understands it differently? And where else would you do it except in the capital? That's why I'm saying it was driven by EVENTS. If Antioch had been politically powerful the church would have been based there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922814)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 10:52 PM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic coffee pot native

i dont know what "amplify the doctrine" means.

You're right, Rome was given a position of honor in resolving disputes through events that led to the other churches respecting it, but it never had legal authority over other churches.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922816)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: glassy effete location

Do you really think Constantine became a devout believer? I bet you do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922820)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 10:55 PM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic coffee pot native

how is that an argument for papal supremacy and universal jurisdiction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922822)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 10:55 PM
Author: glassy effete location

Why are you trying to change the topic of the discussion in mid-stream? I haven't even gotten to this guy yet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C5%82adys%C5%82aw_II_Jagie%C5%82%C5%82o

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922825)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 10:57 PM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic coffee pot native

"Some of these communities started doing and believing wild things, others weren't so sure. This went on for CENTURIES before we had a Pope."

This is just silly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922827)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 11:00 PM
Author: glassy effete location

We didn't even have a New Testament until about 400AD. Until then we had apostolic fathers you know nothing about. You couldn't name one and explain why he was important.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922830)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 11:00 PM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic coffee pot native

Thank God the Pope ordered Irenaeus to write some books

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922832)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 11:01 PM
Author: glassy effete location

You hate the Bible we get it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922834)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 11:01 PM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic coffee pot native

lmao I kissed the bible this morning

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922835)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 11:01 PM
Author: glassy effete location

Wow, I'm growing more impressed with your intellect by the minute.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922836)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 11:02 PM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic coffee pot native

lol at Christianity being about intellect. Go to church and venerate an icon you filthy papist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922838)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 11:06 PM
Author: glassy effete location

Hang on, let me forget every history book ever written about this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922845)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 11:09 PM
Author: beady-eyed alcoholic coffee pot native

hey bro ur bread looks a lil flat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48922850)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 7:13 PM
Author: Dark masturbator headpube

ironically prots are adulterers believing the logos = sacred scripture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48925175)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: glassy effete location

Sacred scripture but they never read it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#48925194)



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Date: November 4th, 2025 12:50 PM
Author: brindle idea he suggested

lol @ this thread being this long with no mention of ecumenical councils

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#49401191)



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Date: November 4th, 2025 1:12 PM
Author: Misunderstood background story

Or the great schism …

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#49401249)



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Date: November 4th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: brindle idea he suggested

Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#49401824)



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Date: November 4th, 2025 9:58 PM
Author: brindle idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#49402523)



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Date: November 4th, 2025 10:01 PM
Author: Hilarious charcoal gas station

A grilled cheese sandwich with the virgin mary burned onto it sold for $28,000 on ebay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723857&forum_id=2/#49402527)