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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
hairraiser mad cow disease
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overrated hall genital piercing
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they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
hairraiser mad cow disease
  11/09/25
much more than that
mischievous rusted bawdyhouse
  11/09/25
anal rape?
Exciting ruddy goal in life
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But also some negative consequences
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disgusting scarlet home
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
overrated hall genital piercing
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Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
spruce church
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awkward toaster messiness
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why who is he?
hairraiser mad cow disease
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Lol sup ballmer
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overrated hall genital piercing
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crystalline soul-stirring lodge old irish cottage
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cr he blows
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Frisky Chrome Piazza
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Frisky Chrome Piazza
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Cleveland *Indians*
snowy blood rage orchestra pit
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indians, cleveland
Apoplectic motley wrinkle sneaky criminal
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im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
Claret theater
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
hairraiser mad cow disease
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
Claret theater
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
aphrodisiac sanctuary
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
Crimson adventurous voyeur sandwich
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
twisted dysfunction field
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Dashing primrose church building
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
Apoplectic motley wrinkle sneaky criminal
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
aphrodisiac sanctuary
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
Magical Stimulating Masturbator
  11/09/25
*destroying
hairraiser mad cow disease
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How do you calculate $5k
mischievous rusted bawdyhouse
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
Magical Stimulating Masturbator
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
mischievous rusted bawdyhouse
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
propecia mathematica
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
hairraiser mad cow disease
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
Irradiated godawful set
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
hairraiser mad cow disease
  11/09/25
Jews maf
aphrodisiac sanctuary
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it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
Claret theater
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
hairraiser mad cow disease
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
Claret theater
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
Magical Stimulating Masturbator
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
twisted dysfunction field
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
Irradiated godawful set
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
Exhilarant national mediation
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
hairraiser mad cow disease
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
Exhilarant national mediation
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
twisted dysfunction field
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
hairraiser mad cow disease
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here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
hairraiser mad cow disease
  11/09/25
lol
Exhilarant national mediation
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
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aphrodisiac sanctuary
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that is fucking hilarious.
Charismatic flirting whorehouse mood
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was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
Apoplectic motley wrinkle sneaky criminal
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
Magical Stimulating Masturbator
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anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
Dashing primrose church building
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I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
Irradiated godawful set
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disgusting scarlet home
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lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
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aphrodisiac sanctuary
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could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
Aromatic fishy tattoo parlor
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lol
Carnelian concupiscible french chef
  11/10/25
Lmao
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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: hairraiser mad cow disease

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: overrated hall genital piercing

180

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: hairraiser mad cow disease

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: mischievous rusted bawdyhouse

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Exciting ruddy goal in life

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: cocky fragrant casino puppy

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: disgusting scarlet home



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: overrated hall genital piercing

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: spruce church

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: awkward toaster messiness



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: hairraiser mad cow disease

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: contagious disturbing pisswyrm

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: overrated hall genital piercing



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: crystalline soul-stirring lodge old irish cottage



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Magical Stimulating Masturbator

cr he blows

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Frisky Chrome Piazza



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Frisky Chrome Piazza



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: snowy blood rage orchestra pit

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Apoplectic motley wrinkle sneaky criminal

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Claret theater

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: hairraiser mad cow disease

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Claret theater

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: aphrodisiac sanctuary

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: Crimson adventurous voyeur sandwich

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: twisted dysfunction field

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Dashing primrose church building

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Apoplectic motley wrinkle sneaky criminal

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: aphrodisiac sanctuary

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Magical Stimulating Masturbator

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: hairraiser mad cow disease

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: mischievous rusted bawdyhouse

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Magical Stimulating Masturbator

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: mischievous rusted bawdyhouse

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: propecia mathematica

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: hairraiser mad cow disease

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Irradiated godawful set

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: hairraiser mad cow disease

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: aphrodisiac sanctuary

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Claret theater

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: hairraiser mad cow disease

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Claret theater

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Magical Stimulating Masturbator

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: twisted dysfunction field

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Irradiated godawful set

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Exhilarant national mediation

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: hairraiser mad cow disease

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Exhilarant national mediation

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: twisted dysfunction field

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: hairraiser mad cow disease

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: hairraiser mad cow disease

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Exhilarant national mediation

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: ivory floppy hominid abode

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: aphrodisiac sanctuary



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Charismatic flirting whorehouse mood

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Apoplectic motley wrinkle sneaky criminal

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Magical Stimulating Masturbator

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Dashing primrose church building

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Irradiated godawful set

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: disgusting scarlet home



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: hairraiser mad cow disease

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: aphrodisiac sanctuary



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Aromatic fishy tattoo parlor

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Carnelian concupiscible french chef

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: propecia mathematica

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2/#49416774)