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Question about European feudalism.
| Thriller abode party of the first part | 06/14/13 |
| Cerebral parlour | 05/29/25 |
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| Pontificating Mother Tank | 05/29/25 |
| Misunderstood really tough guy | 05/29/25 |
| Pontificating Mother Tank | 05/29/25 |
| Misunderstood really tough guy | 05/29/25 |
| Pontificating Mother Tank | 05/29/25 |
| Geriatric Soul-stirring Circlehead Dragon | 07/01/25 |
| beady-eyed pearly hell | 07/13/25 |
| Diverse dun locus | 07/13/25 |
| odious boltzmann potus | 05/29/25 |
| Concupiscible mad cow disease | 05/29/25 |
| Vigorous Immigrant | 06/03/25 |
| Geriatric Soul-stirring Circlehead Dragon | 07/02/25 |
| Exciting Godawful Rehab Brethren | 06/08/25 |
| nighttime bronze fortuitous meteor | 07/01/25 |
| Vibrant dilemma generalized bond | 07/16/25 |
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: Thriller abode party of the first part Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: Cerebral parlour just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: Cerebral parlour (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: Cerebral parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: Cerebral parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: Cerebral parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: Cerebral parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: Cerebral parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: Cerebral parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Cerebral parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: Cerebral parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: Cerebral parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: Cerebral parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: Cerebral parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: Cerebral parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: Cerebral parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Cerebral parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: Cerebral parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49436785) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Pontificating Mother Tank Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Misunderstood really tough guy Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: Pontificating Mother Tank (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Misunderstood really tough guy They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: Pontificating Mother Tank read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Geriatric Soul-stirring Circlehead Dragon Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: beady-eyed pearly hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: Diverse dun locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: odious boltzmann potus what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: Concupiscible mad cow disease cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: Vigorous Immigrant I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: Geriatric Soul-stirring Circlehead Dragon teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49065206) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Exciting Godawful Rehab Brethren i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: nighttime bronze fortuitous meteor Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Vibrant dilemma generalized bond really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49421865) |