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At what point do you kill your family dog?

I have an 11 yo dog and 2 young kids who are quite fond of h...
Painfully Honest Business Firm
  12/01/25
I would pay for the surgery but you absolutely should see if...
scarlet stead ratface
  12/01/25
https://www.nahf.org/article/tracheal-collapse-dog-surgery-c...
scarlet stead ratface
  12/01/25
Yeah everything’s insanely inflated where I am. Gettin...
Painfully Honest Business Firm
  12/01/25
Do you live around NYC? If so then I can recommend a place....
scarlet stead ratface
  12/01/25
Nah unfortunately. I like the idea of vet schools. I think w...
Painfully Honest Business Firm
  12/01/25
Good luck.
scarlet stead ratface
  12/01/25
I would pay for the surgery but if you are legit broke then ...
sable library headpube
  12/01/25
check if vet is owned by MARS chocolate before proceeding
Umber Circlehead Turdskin
  12/01/25
if you have pet insurance get the surgery no question. if yo...
Twinkling maniacal psychic
  12/01/25
No pet insurance. I’ll shop around and see if we can g...
Painfully Honest Business Firm
  12/01/25
unfortunately they probably won't cover this if you don't al...
Twinkling maniacal psychic
  12/01/25
tbf, how does an insurer find "vet records" that y...
Provocative macaca hell
  12/01/25
bro idk ok fine you have found the loophole around preexisti...
Twinkling maniacal psychic
  12/01/25
It’s much harder for human pre existing conditions to ...
Provocative macaca hell
  12/01/25
How to keep quiet about the years of records the insurance c...
bat-shit-crazy adventurous set
  12/01/25
Years of records? Most people never go the vet. We go to a w...
Provocative macaca hell
  12/01/25
are you mentally retarded
Flushed duck-like base really tough guy
  12/01/25
Show your work. I’ve shown mine If some vet tomorro...
Provocative macaca hell
  12/01/25
how about this. go get your dog insurance this afternoon and...
Flushed duck-like base really tough guy
  12/01/25
Wait 6 months
Provocative macaca hell
  12/01/25
loled out loud at this. jews are so 180 and smart
Flushed duck-like base really tough guy
  12/01/25
Can you drive dog to rural vet or a vet school? Vet schools ...
bat-shit-crazy adventurous set
  12/01/25
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scarlet stead ratface
  12/01/25
I don't know anything about pet insurance, but i'm litigatin...
amber public bath tank
  12/01/25
Drive 10 hours to a vet in ARE country and pay $2000 for the...
bat-shit-crazy adventurous set
  12/01/25
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territorial saffron home
  12/01/25
i couldn't spend that type of money on a dog in good conscio...
Vigorous Useless Brakes Mother
  12/01/25
I would drop $10k on my dog for medical care without hesitat...
scarlet stead ratface
  12/01/25
cut your losses. spend 300 on adoption fees for a new dog a...
impertinent copper blood rage
  12/01/25
Very hard to adopt a dog that isn’t a shitpit mix, esp...
Provocative macaca hell
  12/01/25
I've noticed this. I can't say I spent a ton of time brow...
.,.,.,....,.,..,.,.,.,
  12/02/25
when you're hungry
Coral newt tanning salon
  12/01/25
That’s always tough and there’s no right answer....
white cocky wrinkle persian
  12/01/25
just let it run away and the spca will pick it up and have s...
know-it-all black rehab idea he suggested
  12/01/25
when the wok is at a rolling boil
disgusting national security agency
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diverse sanctuary
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Nubile Dark Bbw
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Provocative macaca hell
  12/01/25
rorring boir
UhOh
  12/02/25
PAGING metaphysics is gay the poaster
rose community account corner
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communism was a red herring
  12/02/25
I'd try to find a better price because that quote seems insa...
Naked hominid
  12/01/25
i'd spend whatever it takes, but this is some goyishe math. ...
Provocative macaca hell
  12/01/25
There’s ways the dog can make it up to you after the s...
Swollen Pit
  12/01/25
Hey mig, you murdered your dog bc he annoyed you. Thoughts h...
communism was a red herring
  12/02/25
my extended family did the dog surgery/chemo stuff once and ...
Kenneth Play
  12/02/25
i do it in the first year, before anyone gets too attached.
UhOh
  12/02/25
Update: Got a second opinion from a country vet an hour away...
Wes Scantlin
  12/04/25
180
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  12/04/25
180 fuck those vet scammers
Refunkulus
  12/04/25
180
Kenneth Play
  12/04/25
180. This is why you get second opinions. Also, never use ...
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Date: December 1st, 2025 1:59 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Business Firm

I have an 11 yo dog and 2 young kids who are quite fond of her. Unfortunately, she has a collapsing trachea, which will progressively worsen until it suffocates her to death. Could be months, could be years. In the meantime, I can pay $5,000 for a tracheal surgery which could more or less “cure” the issue but even then she’s looking at maybe 5 years tops. I’m also Poor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474553)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:00 PM
Author: scarlet stead ratface

I would pay for the surgery but you absolutely should see if the vet is ripping you off. Get a few other second opinions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474558)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:05 PM
Author: scarlet stead ratface

https://www.nahf.org/article/tracheal-collapse-dog-surgery-cost



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474580)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Business Firm

Yeah everything’s insanely inflated where I am. Getting multiple opinions though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474589)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:09 PM
Author: scarlet stead ratface

Do you live around NYC? If so then I can recommend a place.

If not, I recommend some veterinary schools. They may be cheaper, especially if you allow them to work with students on the dog (it would be supervised by faculty).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474597)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:19 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Business Firm

Nah unfortunately. I like the idea of vet schools. I think we have a couple nearby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474630)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:43 PM
Author: scarlet stead ratface

Good luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474905)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:02 PM
Author: sable library headpube

I would pay for the surgery but if you are legit broke then don’t do it, just put the dog to sleep when it’s time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474569)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: Umber Circlehead Turdskin

check if vet is owned by MARS chocolate before proceeding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474573)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: Twinkling maniacal psychic

if you have pet insurance get the surgery no question. if you don't and really can't afford the $5k, it might old yeller time...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474577)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:06 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Business Firm

No pet insurance. I’ll shop around and see if we can get it cheaper. It’s hard to kill something over money. Obviously there’s a threshold but WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474583)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: Twinkling maniacal psychic

unfortunately they probably won't cover this if you don't already have insurance. your vet records will show that the tests for this condition predate the policy. still try though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474588)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:09 PM
Author: Provocative macaca hell

tbf, how does an insurer find "vet records" that you dont show them?

is there some national database of vet records?

one weird trick: cant op just get insurance now and keep quiet about any vet records in existence and let do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474598)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:14 PM
Author: Twinkling maniacal psychic

bro idk ok fine you have found the loophole around preexisting conditions the insurance conundrum is solved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474614)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Provocative macaca hell

It’s much harder for human pre existing conditions to be hidden because most people are not just going to random doctors but having their claims submitted to major national insurance companies so there’s essentially a national database of your medical record through insurance claims.

For dogs its not the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474674)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy adventurous set

How to keep quiet about the years of records the insurance company will demand to see as a condition of coverage and will scour for any sign of breathing issues?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474642)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Provocative macaca hell

Years of records? Most people never go the vet. We go to a walk in clinic for shots and I have those records. There’s no records of annual checkups or blood work or anything that would document any physical condition our dog has.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474668)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Flushed duck-like base really tough guy

are you mentally retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474676)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: Provocative macaca hell

Show your work. I’ve shown mine

If some vet tomorrow said my dog had a major problem, I’d never mention that visit. I’d simply show the insurance company the records of the walk in clinics where we’ve gotten vaccines over the last few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474692)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Flushed duck-like base really tough guy

how about this. go get your dog insurance this afternoon and report a collapsing trachea to them tomorrow, even if its a lie. lets see what unfolds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474756)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:31 PM
Author: Provocative macaca hell

Wait 6 months

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474854)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:27 PM
Author: Flushed duck-like base really tough guy

loled out loud at this. jews are so 180 and smart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474658)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy adventurous set

Can you drive dog to rural vet or a vet school? Vet schools often have discounted rates so vet students can learn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474609)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:14 PM
Author: scarlet stead ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474613)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: amber public bath tank

I don't know anything about pet insurance, but i'm litigating a case against a state insurance regulator and got a bunch of their internal emails, and they absolutely RIP on pet insurance. They use it as a shorthand for a scammy worthless product.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474913)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:10 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy adventurous set

Drive 10 hours to a vet in ARE country and pay $2000 for the surgery instead. Otherwise put down the dog if it looks very uncomfortable all the time. This should be a high bar, though.. Dogs are very resilient and adapt to most shit that life brings them. *takes gun out of mouth* we can learn a lot from them, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474599)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: territorial saffron home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474657)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: Vigorous Useless Brakes Mother

i couldn't spend that type of money on a dog in good conscious. my ex (a vet) and i got in a big fight over this. it seems extraordinarily selfish consider $5k could make a lot of other pets (and humans) lives much better.

with kids you could mentally frame it as paying for their happiness but if youre poor your money is better spent elsewhere imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474611)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:15 PM
Author: scarlet stead ratface

I would drop $10k on my dog for medical care without hesitation. That said, my last dog (a giant dog too) beat cancer twice, was a diabetic, lived to 13 and all of her care combined was under $10k. I never spent $5k on any single thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474617)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:16 PM
Author: impertinent copper blood rage

cut your losses. spend 300 on adoption fees for a new dog and think about how excited your kids will be about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474621)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Provocative macaca hell

Very hard to adopt a dog that isn’t a shitpit mix, especially in an expensive area like where OP seems to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474679)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:04 AM
Author: .,.,.,....,.,..,.,.,.,

I've noticed this.

I can't say I spent a ton of time browsing dog adoption ads years ago, but it can't always have been like this.

I look at what the nearest shelter has and the vast majority are shitpits and the remainder are kinda sad looking, not particularly cute dogs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49476314)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:17 PM
Author: Coral newt tanning salon

when you're hungry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474626)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: white cocky wrinkle persian

That’s always tough and there’s no right answer. My last dog didn’t make it quite to 11 and went pretty quick, natural time for the breed. But I told myself if it ever looked like he was suffering I’d take him out for all the cheeseburgers he could eat and then give him a lethal dose of meds and sit there with him till he was gone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474690)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: know-it-all black rehab idea he suggested

just let it run away and the spca will pick it up and have some shitlib couple pay for the surgery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474693)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: disgusting national security agency

when the wok is at a rolling boil

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474698)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: at-the-ready razzmatazz resort roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474712)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:56 PM
Author: diverse sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474737)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:45 PM
Author: Nubile Dark Bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474915)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:34 PM
Author: Provocative macaca hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49476074)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: UhOh

rorring boir

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49476768)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:52 PM
Author: rose community account corner

PAGING metaphysics is gay the poaster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49474942)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:10 AM
Author: communism was a red herring



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49476326)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:28 PM
Author: Naked hominid

I'd try to find a better price because that quote seems insane but you gotta save the dog. Even at $5k, you're renting the dog for $80/month. I'm sure if you asked your kids if they'd rather skip eating out once a month or kill the dog, they'd choose the former. This is a crossroads where you can put them more on the route to becoming autoadmit sociopaths or make them more normal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49475049)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: Provocative macaca hell

i'd spend whatever it takes, but this is some goyishe math. at 11, the dog may die in 2-3 yrs even with the surgery -- of something related to the condition, or of other old age shit. the surgery doesnt guarantee him living until 16 by any means. that being said, i totally agree that you've got to save the dog but shop around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49475054)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Swollen Pit

There’s ways the dog can make it up to you after the surgery. It will owe you and you can exploit that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49476042)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:10 AM
Author: communism was a red herring

Hey mig, you murdered your dog bc he annoyed you. Thoughts here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49476328)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth)

my extended family did the dog surgery/chemo stuff once and i wouldn't do it again. yes it probably extended the life of the dog a year or something. but the dog cannot understand why it is in short term pain. it's a sad moment but i would say pick the day and end it is a compassionate OK thing to do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49476759)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: UhOh

i do it in the first year, before anyone gets too attached.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49476764)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: Wes Scantlin

Update: Got a second opinion from a country vet an hour away. He says NOT collapsed trachea, just borderline, but he needs heart meds. So now I have a nearly blind old dog on heart failure meds, but he should be sticking around for a while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49483765)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49483931)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: Refunkulus (I Always Post Always TP)

180 fuck those vet scammers



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49483958)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth)

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49484588)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


180. This is why you get second opinions. Also, never use the first vet again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2/#49484590)