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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
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just walk outside bro
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Shimmering Orchestra Pit Mood

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49172980)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49421817)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49421862)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49421881)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49422254)



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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49424474)



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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49425035)



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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49425543)



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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49427654)



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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49436681)



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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49436785)



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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49439167)



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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49441985)



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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49454945)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49455274)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49457596)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49458108)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49461550)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49463581)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49464738)



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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49466319)



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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM
Author: chartreuse abode party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49467160)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49478445)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49484240)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49484832)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Big frisky knife

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Domesticated burgundy whorehouse factory reset button

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Big frisky knife

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Domesticated burgundy whorehouse factory reset button

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Big frisky knife

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: misunderstood chestnut genital piercing incel

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Light infuriating sweet tailpipe scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Razzle peach resort rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: kink-friendly trailer park travel guidebook

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: swashbuckling vermilion regret locale

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: chocolate theater nibblets

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: misunderstood chestnut genital piercing incel

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: lake home goyim

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: anal boiling water

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Swollen parlor love of her life

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49105022)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: Marvelous hissy fit

It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49421865)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: irradiated stubborn school roast beef

it was a nanny state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49458174)