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Katy Perry accused of rubbing her bare cunt on actress’s face

https://pagesix.com/2026/04/13/celebrity-news/katy-perry-den...
misanthropic walnut kitchen
  04/13/26
based
Irradiated infuriating church shitlib
  04/13/26
To be fair, between the ages of 15 and 22 I probably teabagg...
lavender bateful tanning salon
  04/13/26
at least 5 of these were total strangers I never met.
lavender bateful tanning salon
  04/13/26
none of them ever kicked your ass?
amethyst office
  04/13/26
*licked
Mauve stead potus
  04/14/26
I'm pretty sure all of them were passed out / sleeping.
lavender bateful tanning salon
  04/16/26
oh that makes way more sense. i know a football player (lin...
amethyst office
  04/17/26
Exactly. It's a great way to shit test whether someone is a ...
lavender bateful tanning salon
  04/20/26
I’ve been to spice market bar, good bar, but I’m...
Salmon Balding Rigpig
  04/13/26
I wonder how this works mechanically, and whether there was ...
bronze glittery pervert
  04/13/26
Impossible there was not butthole/nose contact
Spectacular garnet weed whacker
  04/13/26
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Aromatic Mother
  04/13/26
Unghh Does anyone know if this is common behavior for Ms....
bronze glittery pervert
  04/13/26
when people make up stories they often don't even try to vis...
diverse olive business firm
  04/13/26
this is MAGA country, nigger
Mahogany space ladyboy
  04/13/26
cr
amethyst office
  04/13/26
This sounds like the Holocaust
Mewling racy trust fund love of her life
  04/13/26
...wish it was true but it's made up
Mewling racy trust fund love of her life
  04/14/26
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Henna Travel Guidebook Corner
  04/21/26
Battle of the Crazy Eyes. But Ruby Rose absolutely RADI...
Bright multi-billionaire site
  04/13/26
The two of them booze and gakked out determined to get all t...
Chartreuse Locale
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I think Katy Perry was famous 15-20 years ago no idea who th...
Odious hominid menage
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Aromatic Mother
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lilac bipolar abode
  04/14/26
there's a very real possibility that this event straight up ...
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Aromatic Mother
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concupiscible sooty fat ankles
  04/14/26
if true, there should be boils and pustules where vagina mad...
wonderful hell
  04/13/26
Lucky girl
Greedy vermilion puppy
  04/13/26
She’s known around LA to have a monstrously gross vag
Twinkling bat-shit-crazy center
  04/13/26
?
amethyst office
  04/13/26
If you have a question just ask it little guy
Twinkling bat-shit-crazy center
  04/14/26
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Titillating Corn Cake Immigrant
  04/14/26
i thought it was self-explanatory, boss. who is spreading th...
amethyst office
  04/14/26
You just have to go there and hang out in “the scene&r...
Twinkling bat-shit-crazy center
  04/14/26
it lends credence to the story if she has droopy labia minor...
narrow-minded base
  04/14/26
wwop
soul-stirring trailer park
  04/14/26
This sounds exaggerated
Purple Affirmative Action
  04/13/26
Katy Perry was a non-famous gospel singer named Katie Hudson...
Emerald Hospital
  04/14/26
some gay guy should come and and pull the old "MEEEE TO...
Maroon exhilarant school
  04/14/26
I have always found Katy Perry sexxy as hell-- so sue me.
laughsome mint cruise ship mental disorder
  04/14/26
"Projectile vomited." And that was a lesbian.
Soggy range
  04/14/26
I would make such sweet luv to Katy https://www.youtube.com...
laughsome mint cruise ship mental disorder
  04/14/26
Incredible thread title. Incredible allegation.
Soggy range
  04/14/26
Thanks. Once I saw the story I knew xo would love it, but th...
misanthropic walnut kitchen
  04/14/26
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Alcoholic iridescent meetinghouse
  04/17/26
Incredible stories. This is their story.
Alcoholic iridescent meetinghouse
  04/17/26
Katy Perry's publicist is throwing Hail Marys it seems like.
unholy cerebral mexican
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Titillating Corn Cake Immigrant
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amethyst office
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soul-stirring trailer park
  04/21/26
Yes, libs. pizzagate was real. Just watch the video for &quo...
scarlet home degenerate
  04/14/26
tittywop
boyish death wish
  04/14/26
twice she groundered
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Tan 180 Chapel Double Fault
  04/15/26
I volunteer as tribute
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Arousing resort associate
  04/21/26
that lesbo damn well knows there’s nothing disgusting ...
dark stimulating theatre lettuce
  04/15/26
🚨🚨🚨THIS IS A WLMAS ACCOUNT🚨🚨🚨DUMB NIGGER A...
green private investor fortuitous meteor
  04/16/26
I Kissed A Girl (And I Liked It) https://www.youtube.com...
amethyst office
  04/15/26
Once saw a documentary about Allie Sin where this happened t...
motley chocolate cuck
  04/15/26
Link?
Spectacular garnet weed whacker
  04/21/26
'CAUSE YOU'RE HOT THEN YOU'RE COLD YOU'RE YES, THEN YOU'RE ...
Alcoholic iridescent meetinghouse
  04/16/26
Majorly jewish incident and thread
Violet supple becky
  04/21/26
katy perry ALSO allegedly exposed a male co-star's penis WIT...
Kenneth Play
  04/24/26


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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:36 PM
Author: misanthropic walnut kitchen

https://pagesix.com/2026/04/13/celebrity-news/katy-perry-denies-ruby-roses-sexual-assault-allegations/

“She didn’t kiss me. She saw me ‘resting’ on my best friend’s lap to avoid her and bent down, pulled her underwear to the side and rubbed her disgusting vagina on my face until my eyes snapped open and I projectile vomited on her,” she claimed about Perry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815367)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:37 PM
Author: Irradiated infuriating church shitlib

based

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815369)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:39 PM
Author: lavender bateful tanning salon

To be fair, between the ages of 15 and 22 I probably teabagged 20-30 guys. (Full bare balls on their face)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815375)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:45 PM
Author: lavender bateful tanning salon

at least 5 of these were total strangers I never met.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815387)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:44 PM
Author: amethyst office

none of them ever kicked your ass?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815998)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:16 AM
Author: Mauve stead potus

*licked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816329)



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Date: April 16th, 2026 8:01 PM
Author: lavender bateful tanning salon

I'm pretty sure all of them were passed out / sleeping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49822286)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 6:50 PM
Author: amethyst office

oh that makes way more sense. i know a football player (linebacker) who did this to some guys who were awake but yeah that's a pretty aggressive move if the guy can't take a joke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49823919)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 8:04 PM
Author: lavender bateful tanning salon

Exactly. It's a great way to shit test whether someone is a chill fratty bro or a neurotic faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49830526)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:40 PM
Author: Salmon Balding Rigpig

I’ve been to spice market bar, good bar, but I’m ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815377)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: bronze glittery pervert

I wonder how this works mechanically, and whether there was also any butthole contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815398)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:25 PM
Author: Spectacular garnet weed whacker

Impossible there was not butthole/nose contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815794)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:29 PM
Author: Aromatic Mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815801)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:48 PM
Author: bronze glittery pervert

Unghh

Does anyone know if this is common behavior for Ms. Perry?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816009)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:32 PM
Author: diverse olive business firm

when people make up stories they often don't even try to visualize what they're claiming occurred

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815806)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:32 PM
Author: Mahogany space ladyboy

this is MAGA country, nigger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815808)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: amethyst office

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815999)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:50 PM
Author: Mewling racy trust fund love of her life

This sounds like the Holocaust

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815400)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:56 AM
Author: Mewling racy trust fund love of her life

...wish it was true but it's made up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816486)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 5:57 AM
Author: Henna Travel Guidebook Corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49831391)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 7:07 PM
Author: Bright multi-billionaire site

Battle of the Crazy Eyes.

But Ruby Rose absolutely RADIATES histrionic BPD succubus serial fabulist energy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815437)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: Chartreuse Locale

The two of them booze and gakked out determined to get all the male attention

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815750)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:07 PM
Author: Odious hominid menage

I think Katy Perry was famous 15-20 years ago no idea who this other person is supposed to be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815759)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:29 PM
Author: Aromatic Mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815800)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:15 AM
Author: lilac bipolar abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816326)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:20 PM
Author: Mahogany space ladyboy

there's a very real possibility that this event straight up never happened but both women have ended up hallucinating that it happened for separate reasons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815785)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:29 PM
Author: Aromatic Mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815799)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:30 AM
Author: Excitant masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816125)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:05 AM
Author: swashbuckling university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816040)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:40 AM
Author: Fishy main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816131)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 6:03 AM
Author: Arousing resort associate

mfcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816241)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:11 AM
Author: primrose razzle-dazzle pozpig really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816325)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:18 AM
Author: Titillating Corn Cake Immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816331)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:47 AM
Author: Insanely creepy selfie national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816469)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:08 PM
Author: concupiscible sooty fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816710)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:21 PM
Author: wonderful hell

if true, there should be boils and pustules where vagina made contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815787)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: Greedy vermilion puppy

Lucky girl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815803)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:18 PM
Author: Twinkling bat-shit-crazy center

She’s known around LA to have a monstrously gross vag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49815955)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: amethyst office

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816003)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:22 AM
Author: Twinkling bat-shit-crazy center

If you have a question just ask it little guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816337)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:22 AM
Author: Titillating Corn Cake Immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816339)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:34 AM
Author: amethyst office

i thought it was self-explanatory, boss. who is spreading these rumors in los angeles and can you expound upon them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816434)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: Twinkling bat-shit-crazy center

You just have to go there and hang out in “the scene” for a few months. Pretty soon you’ll have a good grip on the credible gossip.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816892)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:08 AM
Author: narrow-minded base

it lends credence to the story if she has droopy labia minora lips that she brushed across the victim's face, similar to a male tea-bagging

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816324)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 10:54 AM
Author: soul-stirring trailer park

wwop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816585)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:49 PM
Author: Purple Affirmative Action

This sounds exaggerated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816011)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:26 AM
Author: Emerald Hospital

Katy Perry was a non-famous gospel singer named Katie Hudson in 2005-06, there is zero chance this happened

Ruby Rose is deeply mentally ill and has falsely accused 3-4 celebrities of shit at this point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816121)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:35 AM
Author: Maroon exhilarant school

some gay guy should come and and pull the old "MEEEE TOOO" card for a straightup cash grab. fuck everyone involved. but also the allegation is nauseating and i find it funny that she claims she vomited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816130)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:30 AM
Author: laughsome mint cruise ship mental disorder

I have always found Katy Perry sexxy as hell-- so sue me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816359)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:40 AM
Author: Soggy range

"Projectile vomited." And that was a lesbian.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816371)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:46 AM
Author: laughsome mint cruise ship mental disorder

I would make such sweet luv to Katy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nb_PcOJ0NU&list=RD5Nb_PcOJ0NU&start_radio=1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816381)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:40 AM
Author: Soggy range

Incredible thread title. Incredible allegation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816370)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: misanthropic walnut kitchen

Thanks. Once I saw the story I knew xo would love it, but the thread title had to be pithy. Sometimes the best stories are so out there it’s hard to summarize it in a way that it will pop here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816862)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:18 PM
Author: Alcoholic iridescent meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49824069)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:01 PM
Author: Alcoholic iridescent meetinghouse

Incredible stories. This is their story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49824046)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:37 AM
Author: unholy cerebral mexican

Katy Perry's publicist is throwing Hail Marys it seems like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816439)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:55 AM
Author: Titillating Corn Cake Immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816483)



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Date: April 15th, 2026 10:40 PM
Author: amethyst office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49820837)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 9:32 AM
Author: soul-stirring trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49831632)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:20 PM
Author: scarlet home degenerate

Yes, libs. pizzagate was real. Just watch the video for "This Is How We Do".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816738)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:10 PM
Author: boyish death wish

tittywop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816872)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:15 PM
Author: Glassy Sandwich

twice she groundered

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816882)



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Date: April 15th, 2026 11:17 PM
Author: Tan 180 Chapel Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49820898)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:15 PM
Author: overrated coiffed hall candlestick maker

I volunteer as tribute

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49816885)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 5:39 AM
Author: Arousing resort associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49831373)



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Date: April 15th, 2026 2:16 PM
Author: dark stimulating theatre lettuce

that lesbo damn well knows there’s nothing disgusting about pop princess vagina

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49819591)



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Date: April 16th, 2026 8:20 PM
Author: green private investor fortuitous meteor

🚨🚨🚨THIS IS A WLMAS ACCOUNT🚨🚨🚨DUMB NIGGER ALERT 🚨🚨🚨

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49822325)



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Date: April 15th, 2026 10:40 PM
Author: amethyst office

I Kissed A Girl (And I Liked It)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAp9BKosZXs

great pop song imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49820836)



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Date: April 15th, 2026 11:36 PM
Author: motley chocolate cuck

Once saw a documentary about Allie Sin where this happened to her and she got pissed off and walked off stage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49820909)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 8:55 AM
Author: Spectacular garnet weed whacker

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49831554)



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Date: April 16th, 2026 1:27 AM
Author: Alcoholic iridescent meetinghouse

'CAUSE YOU'RE HOT THEN YOU'RE COLD

YOU'RE YES, THEN YOU'RE NO

YOU'RE IN, THEN YOU'RE OUT

YOU'RE UP, THEN YOU'RE DOWN

YOU'RE WRONG WHEN IT'S RIGHT

IT'S BLACK AND IT'S WHITE

WE FIGHT, WE BREAK UP

WE KISS, WE MAKE UP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49820986)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 5:41 AM
Author: Violet supple becky

Majorly jewish incident and thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49831377)



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Date: April 24th, 2026 9:36 PM
Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth)

katy perry ALSO allegedly exposed a male co-star's penis WITHOUT HIS CONSENT. wtf is with these stories

https://pagesix.com/2026/04/24/celebrity-news/katy-perrys-teenage-dream-co-star-felt-devalued-and-degraded-when-singer-allegedly-exposed-his-genitals-at-party/

Kloss claimed that when he arrived with a friend, Perry — who was with a small group — greeted him excitedly outside the venue. As he was introducing the friend, he alleged Perry pulled his pants and underwear out, exposing his penis.

Kloss lamented on Instagram in August 2019, “Can you imagine how pathetic and embarrassed I felt?”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2/#49840970)