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Terminator 2 Plot Hole: they literally had no fucking plan to kill the T1000

they just shot at it with guns they knew would do nothing th...
grizzly tanning salon boistinker
  06/18/24
The plan was to gtfo and hide forever. Not a hole. Great mo...
topaz diverse locus associate
  06/18/24
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Fluffy shrine wrinkle
  06/18/24
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Ultramarine vigorous theater stage
  06/18/24
its basically invincible to physical damage
Heady puppy station
  06/18/24
It melts, so presumably they could have dropped some sort of...
concupiscible stage party of the first part
  06/18/24
he starts fucking up after taking damage, especially after g...
internet-worthy red trailer park toilet seat
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green jet-lagged volcanic crater
  06/18/24
Arnold could have had an excel file labeled waystokillT1000u...
grizzly tanning salon boistinker
  06/19/24
Giant octopus would do it
mauve marketing idea
  06/19/24
or trick him to fall into a vat of molten metal
grizzly tanning salon boistinker
  06/19/24
Even if he reconstituted himself in that environment, there'...
mauve marketing idea
  06/19/24
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medicated haunting casino background story
  06/19/24
That’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot device you i...
fishy cracking state
  06/18/24
save it for trivia, champ
tan impertinent corner
  06/18/24
the t1000 pretty much ruined the franchise. oh look, a ridic...
olive telephone
  06/18/24
Youre gay, we get it.
topaz diverse locus associate
  06/18/24
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Aggressive orange hell roast beef
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medicated haunting casino background story
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Ultramarine vigorous theater stage
  06/19/24
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garnet set
  06/19/24
lmao the entire premise is a bootstrap paradox; you can at l...
honey-headed razzmatazz prole
  06/18/24
that doesn't contradict what i said. making a villain some i...
olive telephone
  06/18/24
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odious fat ankles
  06/18/24
Wtf is a summer glau
titillating theater
  06/19/24
(Not a Firefly, Arrow, *OR* Sarah Connor Chronicles masterma...
Territorial Fragrant Church Building
  06/19/24
I really wished Sarah Connor Chronicles got a season 3 :(
Chestnut aphrodisiac gunner hissy fit
  06/20/24
Yeah, a solid 165 show and we were left hanging. Fox in tha...
Territorial Fragrant Church Building
  06/20/24
I think Fox cancelled that apprentice knock-off show where t...
Chestnut aphrodisiac gunner hissy fit
  06/20/24
love plot hole / fatal flaw threads about movies but this...
canary tattoo
  06/18/24
Honestly it's not that much more contrived than T1, where ev...
odious fat ankles
  06/18/24
yeah, no oh, a robot can put itself back together vs oh, a...
olive telephone
  06/18/24
My point is more that their plan in T1 ultimately relied on ...
odious fat ankles
  06/19/24
Didn't they know that whatever they did was destined to work...
blue exhilarant fanboi
  06/18/24
Iirc there was a fading picture of fat Ed Furlong, indicatin...
canary tattoo
  06/18/24
lmao just rip off back to the future?
blue exhilarant fanboi
  06/18/24
*undercut haircut fades from picture as T-1000 closes the ga...
crystalline judgmental parlour immigrant
  06/19/24
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disrespectful generalized bond partner
  06/19/24
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mauve marketing idea
  06/20/24
im not a phenotype expert like many on the board... but F...
green jet-lagged volcanic crater
  06/20/24
Eddie furlong's whiny bitch acting almost singlehandedly rui...
boyish hall faggot firefighter
  06/20/24
I’m gay
carmine stimulating property
  06/18/24
The story is that they were so far behind in resources at th...
cerise clown
  06/18/24
Arnold had a ton of info about the T1000 downloaded into his...
grizzly tanning salon boistinker
  06/19/24
When the robots have mastered time travel, wtf does it matte...
Unhinged nursing home
  06/19/24
another plot hole is that time travel makes no fucking sense
grizzly tanning salon boistinker
  06/19/24
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Violent Coffee Pot Crackhouse
  12/24/25
In the first movie, the time travel grid was smashed so no o...
concupiscible stage party of the first part
  06/19/24
The second movie actually takes place before the first
mauve marketing idea
  06/20/24
movies that take place only slightly before/after the curren...
grizzly tanning salon boistinker
  06/20/24
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact
mauve marketing idea
  06/20/24
nah that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking like Roa...
grizzly tanning salon boistinker
  06/21/24
They didn’t even have a moments peace until the freezi...
adventurous flushed native
  06/19/24
they had like an entire day at the beaner gun runner guy's m...
grizzly tanning salon boistinker
  06/20/24
the strategy was to run and hide. arnold says this over and ...
green jet-lagged volcanic crater
  06/20/24
Arnold and all the terminators are kind of stupid. the dood...
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  06/20/24
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odious fat ankles
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Date: June 18th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: grizzly tanning salon boistinker

they just shot at it with guns they knew would do nothing then randomly decided to raid the cyberdyne lab then happened to drive to a fortuitous steel mill. they were really dumb as shit and got lucky and even then john and sarah ended up as fugitives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47757584)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: topaz diverse locus associate

The plan was to gtfo and hide forever. Not a hole. Great movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47757934)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: Fluffy shrine wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47757940)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: Ultramarine vigorous theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47757946)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:23 PM
Author: Heady puppy station

its basically invincible to physical damage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47757973)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:46 PM
Author: concupiscible stage party of the first part

It melts, so presumably they could have dropped some sort of very high temperature explosive on it. It ultimately melts in the molten metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47758301)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:34 PM
Author: internet-worthy red trailer park toilet seat

he starts fucking up after taking damage, especially after getting frozen and shattered

https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/terminator/images/c/c8/800px-T2T-1000glitch-1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090320213631

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/t1000_glitch.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759018)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: green jet-lagged volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47758073)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 8:17 AM
Author: grizzly tanning salon boistinker

Arnold could have had an excel file labeled waystokillT1000using20thcenturytech.xlsb loaded in his head. one of the rows would have been to break into a steel mill and dump him in a vat of molten metal. they probably could have just gone way out to sea and threw him in the ocean. he'd do something dumb like shapeshift into a shark but then he'd be stuck in the water.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759947)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: mauve marketing idea

Giant octopus would do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47760201)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 2:39 PM
Author: grizzly tanning salon boistinker

or trick him to fall into a vat of molten metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47760946)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:10 PM
Author: mauve marketing idea

Even if he reconstituted himself in that environment, there's no way he could avoid chemical impurities IMHO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761930)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:05 AM
Author: medicated haunting casino background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47760192)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:24 PM
Author: fishy cracking state

That’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot device you idiot. A very common one too - underdogs up against a seemingly unstoppable enemy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47757978)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: tan impertinent corner

save it for trivia, champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47758072)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:46 PM
Author: olive telephone

the t1000 pretty much ruined the franchise. oh look, a ridiculous 5,000 year jump in technology to the point of imaginary.

summer glau helped revive it, but only because of her acting and looks

t2 is just a lame fantasy kids movie. t1 was great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47758068)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:39 PM
Author: topaz diverse locus associate

Youre gay, we get it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47758269)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:36 PM
Author: Aggressive orange hell roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759203)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:06 AM
Author: medicated haunting casino background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47760193)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 2:55 PM
Author: Ultramarine vigorous theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47760988)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:11 PM
Author: garnet set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761935)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:53 PM
Author: honey-headed razzmatazz prole

lmao the entire premise is a bootstrap paradox; you can at least make the villain as cool as possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47758330)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:16 PM
Author: olive telephone

that doesn't contradict what i said. making a villain some imaginary freddy krueger robot is not 'cool', it's lame.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47758954)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:33 PM
Author: odious fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759013)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:12 PM
Author: titillating theater

Wtf is a summer glau

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761039)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:53 PM
Author: Territorial Fragrant Church Building

(Not a Firefly, Arrow, *OR* Sarah Connor Chronicles masterman*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761132)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 2:06 PM
Author: Chestnut aphrodisiac gunner hissy fit

I really wished Sarah Connor Chronicles got a season 3 :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47763660)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:31 PM
Author: Territorial Fragrant Church Building

Yeah, a solid 165 show and we were left hanging. Fox in that era sucked at this :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47764275)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:37 PM
Author: Chestnut aphrodisiac gunner hissy fit

I think Fox cancelled that apprentice knock-off show where the rich boss was a fake before they did the big reveal and for that show they paid for the episodes they just never aired them. Same era I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47764303)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:23 PM
Author: canary tattoo

love plot hole / fatal flaw threads about movies

but this one isnt that compelling

bit like the death star shot -- they needed every single circumstance to break their way to stand a chance against invincible villain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47758969)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:35 PM
Author: odious fat ankles

Honestly it's not that much more contrived than T1, where even after repeated obliteration from small arms and explosives the Terminator is still a threat until they find the fortuitous industrial press.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759020)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:08 PM
Author: olive telephone

yeah, no

oh, a robot can put itself back together vs

oh, a liquid metal imaginary shapeshifter can see, can fix itself, can rejoin, can become anything can...etc

incredibly lame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759158)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:26 AM
Author: odious fat ankles

My point is more that their plan in T1 ultimately relied on them getting lucky on being near an industrial factory or whatever

Anyway, when you remember that The Terminator was initially conceived of (and plays out as) a slasher movie, then just think of T-800 as Michael or Jason, and T-1000 as Freddy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47760088)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:36 PM
Author: blue exhilarant fanboi

Didn't they know that whatever they did was destined to work anyway because the future they came from proved that they didn't die? idk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759029)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:37 PM
Author: canary tattoo

Iirc there was a fading picture of fat Ed Furlong, indicating a strong chance they failed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759035)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:45 PM
Author: blue exhilarant fanboi

lmao just rip off back to the future?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759056)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:21 PM
Author: crystalline judgmental parlour immigrant

*undercut haircut fades from picture as T-1000 closes the gap*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761055)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: disrespectful generalized bond partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761078)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:33 AM
Author: mauve marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47763081)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:50 AM
Author: green jet-lagged volcanic crater

im not a phenotype expert like many on the board...

but Furlong, along with for example Wiley Wiggins from Dazed and Confused...

is an example of this weird type of guy who comes across as cool and charasmatic at about age 13 and then somehow devolves into a wretched loser by the time they are 18, never to return



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47763150)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 1:29 PM
Author: boyish hall faggot firefighter

Eddie furlong's whiny bitch acting almost singlehandedly ruined T2. The fact that it's still watchable is a testament to how freaking sweet the rest of the movie is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47763528)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:10 PM
Author: carmine stimulating property

I’m gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759164)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:30 PM
Author: cerise clown

The story is that they were so far behind in resources at that point in the future that recycling scraps like arnold was the best they could do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759196)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 8:35 AM
Author: grizzly tanning salon boistinker

Arnold had a ton of info about the T1000 downloaded into his cyborg head already except for ways to kill it. more plausible would be that it showed up out of nowhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759994)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:06 PM
Author: Unhinged nursing home

When the robots have mastered time travel, wtf does it matter if you kill a T1000 or not? They'll just send another T1000 and then another until you die

As someone said, their only hope was go off the grid until judgement day



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761031)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:22 PM
Author: grizzly tanning salon boistinker

another plot hole is that time travel makes no fucking sense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761057)



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Date: December 24th, 2025 7:35 PM
Author: Violent Coffee Pot Crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#49538001)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 5:13 PM
Author: concupiscible stage party of the first part

In the first movie, the time travel grid was smashed so no one else could go through. That concept was abandoned by the second movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761404)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: mauve marketing idea

The second movie actually takes place before the first

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47763086)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: grizzly tanning salon boistinker

movies that take place only slightly before/after the current year the movie was made are annoying. Road Trip is another example of that and it's confusing that it takes place in like 1996 instead of 1999.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47763094)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 2:40 PM
Author: mauve marketing idea

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47763774)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 8:40 AM
Author: grizzly tanning salon boistinker

nah that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking like Road Trip where they're just a few years off so mailing VHS tapes even tho it was made in 2000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47766102)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 5:11 PM
Author: adventurous flushed native

They didn’t even have a moments peace until the freezing episode though. And that was well into the movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761396)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 1:43 PM
Author: grizzly tanning salon boistinker

they had like an entire day at the beaner gun runner guy's mexican ranch then instead of coming up with a strategy, Sarah runs off like an idiot to kill Dyson then they parlay that into blowing up Cyberdyne

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47763589)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:30 PM
Author: green jet-lagged volcanic crater

the strategy was to run and hide. arnold says this over and over. but then sarah tards out and john decides they're going to go back into danger to save her.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47764266)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:34 PM
Author: grizzly tanning salon boistinker

Arnold and all the terminators are kind of stupid. the dood in T1 says this out loud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47764288)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 8:48 AM
Author: odious fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47766116)