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Why the Rich Don't Pay Taxes
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Date: November 18th, 2025 9:35 PM Author: Out-of-control Trust Fund https://youtu.be/aLKacgW6YOI?si=JebvF2ki5n9D6PZA
Step 1 never sell stock. Borrow against your investments. Step 2 Estate tax loopholes never pay on gifts and passing down money Step 3 profit |
Date: November 18th, 2025 9:36 PM Author: passionate stage What do you pay the loan against the stocks with (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442467) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 9:45 PM Author: Out-of-control Trust Fund I think you have something sort of minimum payment like some small percentage of the value. The loans accumulate interest but not as fast as the market. I suppose you have to sell some amount every year to make the payment but you only pay out of gains in interest and never the principle. So you're always growing the principle, you're always beating inflation, you're paying down the loan at a low fixed rate but no one is rushing to pay this stuff off.
And then eventually you get margin called and have to pony up but you've doubled your money by then. I think this happened to Elon and he had to sell Tesla stonk and write a billion dollar check to the govvy. But in the meantime he got richer and richer far faster than he other would have selling stonks along the way and paying for shit in cash. |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 9:47 PM Author: mahogany legend french chef People who earn an income should be taxed zero, including the wealthy. Anytime the government taxes something it disincentivizes it. Why should be penalize productivity? Tax the lazy fucking faggots who do nothing all day.
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Date: November 18th, 2025 9:49 PM Author: Out-of-control Trust Fund Are you saying RSF is an industrious job creator? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442499) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 9:51 PM Author: mahogany legend french chef He's productive at creating bort content, a far greater value to society. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442505) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 9:51 PM Author: Out-of-control Trust Fund Love the serious answer chief (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442508) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 9:52 PM Author: mahogany legend french chef TY hoss (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442513) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 9:48 PM Author: Stubborn Boltzmann the tax system is fucked but i dont get why proles think people who dont have income should pay federal income taxes. im not clicking the link but whatever it is if the guy figured it out 30 years ago id be sort of impressed but now no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442495) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 9:50 PM Author: Out-of-control Trust Fund Her main argument is for death and gift tax. Don't tax capital gains during the lifetime but when they croak or give it away the government should scoop up their fair share. Makes sense imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442504) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 9:58 PM Author: Stubborn Boltzmann why do we need so many taxes? some of us are actually from this country and dont want to spend our entire lives writing checks to the government so you can have snap or whatever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442549) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 10:14 PM Author: Out-of-control Trust Fund The argument is that a lot of taxes are regressive. Income tax is 50% of revenue, payroll tax is 30%. Based on percentage of how much money the working class have to pay it's insane. Meanwhile there's a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit every year and the richest Americans collectively own 46 trillion in assets. They could easily close the gap.
You can say well why not just cut spending. Too unpopular. You cut social security and a bunch of old people die. You can't cut military. 20% now is servicing the debt itself. There's nothing left to cut. Snap is a pittance. We could literally just get all the money we needed to fund the government from turbo rich people when they die. They don't pay any tax during their life so why not just get it when they're gone.
It comes down to who actually funds the government. Working people fund 85-90% of it. People who can't afford shit pay for it. |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 10:16 PM Author: Stubborn Boltzmann ok well ban the fed. problem solved. no need to take money from citizens and transfer it to your bangladeshi family. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442614) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 10:18 PM Author: Out-of-control Trust Fund Albert Einstein (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442623) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 10:18 PM Author: Stubborn Boltzmann you people are so whiny and horrible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442625) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 10:19 PM Author: Out-of-control Trust Fund You don't know shit about anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442627) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 10:29 PM Author: passionate stage We don’t really need taxes for anything besides construction and engineering projects. The biggest agency should be the Army Corps of Engineers. Maybe a public option for healthcare too.
1/3 to engineering 1/3 to public healthcare 1/3 to a much smaller military and that’s it.
Everything else shouldn’t exist. There shouldn’t be any social security, Dep of Education/transportation/energy/housing etc. |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 5:26 AM Author: self-absorbed office (1850s Doctor) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49443117) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 10:34 PM Author: coiffed chapel famous landscape painting I've heard this thrown around but is there any evidence Bill Gates, Bezos, Zuck, Musk etc. have taken out billions of dollars of personal debt backed by a stock pledge?
I see reports of those guys selling stock from time to time or donating to their foundations.
what interest rate are they paying? It should be around 6-9% annual interest right, compounding in kind presumably? After a few years are you really better off than just paying 24% capital gains tax? |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 10:35 PM Author: Stubborn Boltzmann wtf no it was like 1% during covid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442715) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 10:40 PM Author: Out-of-control Trust Fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442733) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 10:40 PM Author: Out-of-control Trust Fund It was really low for a very long time idk about now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442734) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 10:42 PM Author: mahogany legend french chef It does happen. A lot of banks make easy money lending to corporate executives against their stock holdings but typically it's done more for access to liquidity and not tax reasons. If you are a senior corporate executive or founder, a lot of your wealth is tied up in company equity that may be unfeasible or unattractive to sell (selling large chunks of stock may drive down share prices etc.) so to unlock the value of that stock to either diversify your holdings or buy things like houses, boats, private jets or whatever you take out a loan against the stock, then pay it back later when it's more advantageous to liquidate some equity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442740) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 10:43 PM Author: Stubborn Boltzmann access to liquidity *for* tax reasons (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49442741) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 1:26 AM Author: contagious theatre national security agency I love men (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49443000) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 5:59 PM Author: mildly autistic tripping institution If this is news to you, you're poor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5799777&forum_id=2/#49444703) |