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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Bateful sinister stock car box office
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
razzle-dazzle parlour
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Cocky spectacular depressive mediation
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
self-centered striped hyena
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Cocky spectacular depressive mediation
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
self-centered striped hyena
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Cocky spectacular depressive mediation
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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cq
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Bateful sinister stock car box office

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle parlour

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle parlour

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49128622)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Cocky spectacular depressive mediation

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: self-centered striped hyena

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Cocky spectacular depressive mediation

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: self-centered striped hyena

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Cocky spectacular depressive mediation

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: mustard faggotry temple

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Odious associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Excitant persian selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Brilliant macaca

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Useless Burgundy Gas Station Idea He Suggested

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Indigo Marvelous Ape Spot

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: mustard faggotry temple

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: carnelian lascivious son of senegal

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: light irradiated gaming laptop

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Sadistic forum really tough guy

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49105022)